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	<title>Comments on: Cingular and Apple Dropped the SEO Ball with iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: seoalligator</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-39894</link>
		<dc:creator>seoalligator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting reflection - apple is what to think ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting reflection &#8211; apple is what to think &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone is available with Cingular ONLY!? And what if I am stuck under contract with a carrier OTHER than Cingular but still want a iPhone?
Well, the only solution I could fine was http://www.Cellswapper.com - they get you out of any cell phone contract!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone is available with Cingular ONLY!? And what if I am stuck under contract with a carrier OTHER than Cingular but still want a iPhone?<br />
Well, the only solution I could fine was http://www.Cellswapper.com &#8211; they get you out of any cell phone contract!</p>
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		<title>By: matkowsky.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>matkowsky.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be that they didn&#039;t want to further invest in promoting the name until the trademark issue is settled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be that they didn&#8217;t want to further invest in promoting the name until the trademark issue is settled.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weel right now, Apple is on top with their Apple.com/iphone URL. 

It is interesting that the carrier Cingular/Att is nowhere insight, perhaps Cingular/ATT cant really promote the iPhone until its approved by the FCC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weel right now, Apple is on top with their Apple.com/iphone URL. </p>
<p>It is interesting that the carrier Cingular/Att is nowhere insight, perhaps Cingular/ATT cant really promote the iPhone until its approved by the FCC?</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like they missed out on at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadwatch.org/node/11282&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 million page views which went to Engadget&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like they missed out on at <a href="http://www.threadwatch.org/node/11282" rel="nofollow">10 million page views which went to Engadget</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things:

1. This is a special case, they didn&#039;t need help getting word out on the iPhone.  The media deluged us with information on it.  You had to be dead to not see news about it.  I am not saying they shouldn&#039;t have done, just that they didn&#039;t need to.  Now if you are a lesser known company with a lesser known product that is launching then yes Andy&#039;s comments are spot on.

2. There is still the &quot;little&quot; issue with the Cisco lawsuit.  It could be that the Cingular/Apple Legal teams wouldn&#039;t allow them to say anything pending an agreement - which they still don&#039;t have btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1. This is a special case, they didn&#8217;t need help getting word out on the iPhone.  The media deluged us with information on it.  You had to be dead to not see news about it.  I am not saying they shouldn&#8217;t have done, just that they didn&#8217;t need to.  Now if you are a lesser known company with a lesser known product that is launching then yes Andy&#8217;s comments are spot on.</p>
<p>2. There is still the &#8220;little&#8221; issue with the Cisco lawsuit.  It could be that the Cingular/Apple Legal teams wouldn&#8217;t allow them to say anything pending an agreement &#8211; which they still don&#8217;t have btw.</p>
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		<title>By: mad4</title>
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		<dc:creator>mad4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether they dropped the ball for 24 hours of not Apple have a site ranking 2nd for iphone within 2 days of launch AND it has good content on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether they dropped the ball for 24 hours of not Apple have a site ranking 2nd for iphone within 2 days of launch AND it has good content on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17403</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see that most blog posts I&#039;ve seen about the iPhone link to articles or pictures from non Apple or Cingular websites. 

Apple could definitely could have promoted their own webpages more heavily during the announcement to make sure they get a fairer share of the links. It&#039;ll be interesting to see how long it takes them to get the number one spot in Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see that most blog posts I&#8217;ve seen about the iPhone link to articles or pictures from non Apple or Cingular websites. </p>
<p>Apple could definitely could have promoted their own webpages more heavily during the announcement to make sure they get a fairer share of the links. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how long it takes them to get the number one spot in Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Luebke</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17324</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Luebke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you are absolutely correct. I did some digging and turns out this guy has free stats running on his site. Check out his page views over the past 2 days

http://my7.statcounter.com/project/standard/stats.php?account_id=394782&amp;login_id=5&amp;code=3a60c2f4fe17052c0b69d400ae65db7f&amp;guest_login=1&amp;project_id=1922682</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you are absolutely correct. I did some digging and turns out this guy has free stats running on his site. Check out his page views over the past 2 days</p>
<p>http://my7.statcounter.com/project/standard/stats.php?account_id=39478 2&amp;login_id=5&amp;code=3a60c2f4fe17052c0b69d400ae65db7f&amp;guest_login=1&amp;proje ct_id=1922682</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Olthuis</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17320</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Olthuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, I think they (the blogger) setup that page well in advance because of all the iPhone speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, I think they (the blogger) setup that page well in advance because of all the iPhone speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Luebke</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17317</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Luebke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron, somehow I missed your post before my last comment. I see what you mean for Apple. I have tried 3 different computers and 2 proxy servers and can&#039;t get your results but I&#039;m sure they are propagating.

I didn&#039;t mean to suggest Apple launch the pages before the Jobs speech, just that it all be done and ready to go at the flip of a switch. I just find it funny that a random blogspot blog (at least in my results) beat Apple to the punch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron, somehow I missed your post before my last comment. I see what you mean for Apple. I have tried 3 different computers and 2 proxy servers and can&#8217;t get your results but I&#8217;m sure they are propagating.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest Apple launch the pages before the Jobs speech, just that it all be done and ready to go at the flip of a switch. I just find it funny that a random blogspot blog (at least in my results) beat Apple to the punch.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McGee</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17316</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official page is #1 on both G and Y at the moment. Other than that, ditto what Cameron said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official page is #1 on both G and Y at the moment. Other than that, ditto what Cameron said.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schramm</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Schramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give it some time to update across the Google servers. Apple and Cingular both have to have grade pageranks. I would have expected better writing from this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it some time to update across the Google servers. Apple and Cingular both have to have grade pageranks. I would have expected better writing from this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Luebke</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17277</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Luebke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still nowhere on the top few pages for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still nowhere on the top few pages for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Toivo Lainevool</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17273</link>
		<dc:creator>Toivo Lainevool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, apple now appears to have the #1 and #2 spots on Google.  AT least when I do the search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, apple now appears to have the #1 and #2 spots on Google.  AT least when I do the search.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhilash</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17272</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhilash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely an astute observation apart from all the rest of the iPhone noise in the blogosphere right now.  But my favorite part was:

&lt;blockquote&gt;What happens if a product like the iPhone has major bugs and 3 of the top 5 listings in two months talk about how much the iPhone sucks? The potential revenue loss to such an event would be in the millions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Scare tactics at the highest levels.  Super enjoyable. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely an astute observation apart from all the rest of the iPhone noise in the blogosphere right now.  But my favorite part was:</p>
<blockquote><p>What happens if a product like the iPhone has major bugs and 3 of the top 5 listings in two months talk about how much the iPhone sucks? The potential revenue loss to such an event would be in the millions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Scare tactics at the highest levels.  Super enjoyable. <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Olthuis</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17252</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Olthuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, I am not telling you they couldn&#039;t have done that because they did...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/
http://www.cingular.com/iphone/

The Apple page has almost 5,000 links according to Yahoo Site Explorer and ranks #1(and #2) on Google for iPhone.

Give Google some time, you can&#039;t expect them to rank a page within minutes of it being live. In fact I&#039;m surprised it&#039;s already up there after only about 27 hours or so. 

From what I got out of your post it sounds like you think they should&#039;ve had these pages up prior to launch...

&quot;Both Cingular and Apple where in the perfect position to dominate the free market for the product.&quot;

&quot;If Apple &amp; Cingular had just taken the time to preemptively dominate the search engines&quot;

You also have to take into consideration that the iPhone doesn&#039;t even go on sale for a good 6 months, pending FCC approval. I think you were a little quick to jump the gun on this one.

I will agree with one thing though, the Cingular page is not very well optimized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, I am not telling you they couldn&#8217;t have done that because they did&#8230;</p>
<p>http://www.apple.com/iphone/<br />
http://www.cingular.com/iphone/</p>
<p>The Apple page has almost 5,000 links according to Yahoo Site Explorer and ranks #1(and #2) on Google for iPhone.</p>
<p>Give Google some time, you can&#8217;t expect them to rank a page within minutes of it being live. In fact I&#8217;m surprised it&#8217;s already up there after only about 27 hours or so. </p>
<p>From what I got out of your post it sounds like you think they should&#8217;ve had these pages up prior to launch&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Both Cingular and Apple where in the perfect position to dominate the free market for the product.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If Apple &amp; Cingular had just taken the time to preemptively dominate the search engines&#8221;</p>
<p>You also have to take into consideration that the iPhone doesn&#8217;t even go on sale for a good 6 months, pending FCC approval. I think you were a little quick to jump the gun on this one.</p>
<p>I will agree with one thing though, the Cingular page is not very well optimized.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Luebke</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/cingular-and-apple-dropped-the-seo-ball-with-iphone.html/comment-page-1#comment-17249</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Luebke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The #1 spot on Google for iPhone is http://appleiphone.blogspot.com/

You are telling me that neither Apple or Cingular could have simultaneously launched something on their websites about the iPhone as Jobs was making his speech? And then on the big screen Jobs showed and said check out Apple.com/iPhone for more info? That page would at this moment have thousands of links and be ranked #1.

Both Cingular and Apple have pages up promoting the thing but they missed the boat. There is zero reason why they aren&#039;t dominating search other than they did not plan ahead. If some blogger can rank #1, why can&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The #1 spot on Google for iPhone is http://appleiphone.blogspot.com/</p>
<p>You are telling me that neither Apple or Cingular could have simultaneously launched something on their websites about the iPhone as Jobs was making his speech? And then on the big screen Jobs showed and said check out Apple.com/iPhone for more info? That page would at this moment have thousands of links and be ranked #1.</p>
<p>Both Cingular and Apple have pages up promoting the thing but they missed the boat. There is zero reason why they aren&#8217;t dominating search other than they did not plan ahead. If some blogger can rank #1, why can&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schramm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobs even said during his keynote that they could have let the FCC introduce the product but thought it best to do it themselves. The iPhone still needs FCC approval, and I doubt they want to start selling a product before it is a done deal. Also, if Cingular was to promote the phone heavily they would lose a lot of business until the phone comes out. And if the phone doesn&#039;t wind up getting approved they could lose customers indefinitely from the sour experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobs even said during his keynote that they could have let the FCC introduce the product but thought it best to do it themselves. The iPhone still needs FCC approval, and I doubt they want to start selling a product before it is a done deal. Also, if Cingular was to promote the phone heavily they would lose a lot of business until the phone comes out. And if the phone doesn&#8217;t wind up getting approved they could lose customers indefinitely from the sour experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Olthuis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Olthuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, I think the reason you don&#039;t see any of what you mentioned is that Apple tries their damnedest to keep people from knowing about products before they announce them. 

If they had ranked organically for iPhone prior to yesterday we all would&#039;ve known exactly what to expect from the keynote and there&#039;s no way they would&#039;ve had the amount of hype/buzz they got yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, I think the reason you don&#8217;t see any of what you mentioned is that Apple tries their damnedest to keep people from knowing about products before they announce them. </p>
<p>If they had ranked organically for iPhone prior to yesterday we all would&#8217;ve known exactly what to expect from the keynote and there&#8217;s no way they would&#8217;ve had the amount of hype/buzz they got yesterday.</p>
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