Comments on: Most SEOs are crooks? http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:05:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jordan McCollum http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41921 Jordan McCollum Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:00:38 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-41921 @"A regular"—are you talking to me? No, really, are you? Because, like I said earlier today, this article is more than a year old. Can we let it die? @”A regular”—are you talking to me?

No, really, are you? Because, like I said earlier today, this article is more than a year old. Can we let it die?

]]> By: A Regular http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41919 A Regular Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:52:30 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-41919 I am a regular on this blog, since it started. I am PR7, rate #1 in Google SERPS (&pws=0, multiple data centers) for 10-12 2-word terms that are far more "core and actionable" than yours in Google, and have ranked that way for over 2 years. In the end, it amounts for around 5% of new business because 98% of inquiries are unqualified. ..however.. Almost all business comes from word of mouth, but being able to fire up Google and SHOW PEOPLE the listing is hugely impressive. I am a regular on this blog, since it started.

I am PR7, rate #1 in Google SERPS (&pws=0, multiple data centers) for 10-12 2-word terms that are far more “core and actionable” than yours in Google, and have ranked that way for over 2 years.

In the end, it amounts for around 5% of new business because 98% of inquiries are unqualified. ..however..

Almost all business comes from word of mouth, but being able to fire up Google and SHOW PEOPLE the listing is hugely impressive.

]]> By: Jordan McCollum http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41916 Jordan McCollum Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:41:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-41916 Last time I checked, being on page one counts as being "highly visible." Granted, this story is more than a year old, so maybe not. FYI, though, I'm not seeing you on the [hire seo] SERP. Different data centers, I guess. I also don't see a lot of search traffic for [hire seo writer] (you're #10 there for me). The real question, though, is not where you rank but whether your search engine positioning brings you traffic and, more importantly, clients. Last time I checked, being on page one counts as being “highly visible.” Granted, this story is more than a year old, so maybe not.

FYI, though, I’m not seeing you on the [hire seo] SERP. Different data centers, I guess. I also don’t see a lot of search traffic for [hire seo writer] (you’re #10 there for me). The real question, though, is not where you rank but whether your search engine positioning brings you traffic and, more importantly, clients.

]]> By: K D Mains http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41913 K D Mains Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:10:23 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-41913 I am in the process taking up SEO and SEO Content writing afrer studying the subject for over four years. I will not be attending any SEO conferences nor mailing anyone looking for seo work. I can be found on Google Page 1 for "hire seo" or hire seo writer". Google seems to love my honest teach as I learn approach to the subject. To quote the author of this thread "I’m not sure how you’re supposed to get clients if you’re not one of the famous, highly visible SEOs she mentions. " I think I have a way if anyone is interested? I am in the process taking up SEO and SEO Content writing afrer studying the subject for over four years.

I will not be attending any SEO conferences nor mailing anyone looking for seo work.

I can be found on Google Page 1 for “hire seo” or hire seo writer”.

Google seems to love my honest teach as I learn approach to the subject.

To quote the author of this thread

“I’m not sure how you’re supposed to get clients if you’re not one of the famous, highly visible SEOs she mentions. ”

I think I have a way if anyone is interested?

]]> By: mark http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21668 mark Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:40:56 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21668 Straightforward rule people should know is that no SEO can guarantee results. They only try to make sites better than what they're now. Straightforward rule people should know is that no SEO can guarantee results. They only try to make sites better than what they’re now.

]]> By: Scott Clark http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21666 Scott Clark Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:52:52 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21666 Doh! Sorry J. :-) Enjoy your trip! Doh! Sorry J. :-) Enjoy your trip!

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21665 Andy Beal Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:49:49 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21665 Actually Scott, Jordan authored the post. I will admit to spicing up the title. ;-) Actually Scott, Jordan authored the post. I will admit to spicing up the title. ;-)

]]> By: Scott Clark http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21662 Scott Clark Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:23:31 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21662 Ok, Andy... level with us. You know this guy right? This was all a textbook demonstration of link bait, right? [Meeting behind warehouse on a cool NC night] "Ok, here's what you say.....first, you say that SEOS are this... that, etc. yada yada"... then, I'm going to come at ya and attack. A few days later we'll digg ya. And it'll be LINK BAIT GALORE." [giddy laughter] "Jamaica here we come! whoooo hooo!" :-) Gotta rib ya on this one. PS: Next... "Most SEOS are closet sociopathic pyromaniacs that duct tape cats to walls and light their tails on fire." Ok, Andy… level with us.

You know this guy right? This was all a textbook demonstration of link bait, right?

[Meeting behind warehouse on a cool NC night]
“Ok, here’s what you say…..first, you say that SEOS are this… that, etc. yada yada”… then, I’m going to come at ya and attack. A few days later we’ll digg ya. And it’ll be LINK BAIT GALORE.”
[giddy laughter]
“Jamaica here we come! whoooo hooo!”

:-) Gotta rib ya on this one.

PS: Next… “Most SEOS are closet sociopathic pyromaniacs that duct tape cats to walls and light their tails on fire.”

]]> By: CVOS http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21654 CVOS Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:46:36 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21654 Most people think whatever they do not understand is easy. People love to be armchair politicians, executives and entertainers. Just because you are good at criticizing someone or some industry, does not mean you are an expert or even qualified to make scathing comments of a business niche. The irony to this story is it is awesome linkbait. If Scholz wrote 3 belligerent, irreverent and nonfactual articles like this each day she would be a major player in baiting for links. Negativity and sensationalism are the prime newsmakers of humanity. Most people think whatever they do not understand is easy. People love to be armchair politicians, executives and entertainers. Just because you are good at criticizing someone or some industry, does not mean you are an expert or even qualified to make scathing comments of a business niche.

The irony to this story is it is awesome linkbait. If Scholz wrote 3 belligerent, irreverent and nonfactual articles like this each day she would be a major player in baiting for links. Negativity and sensationalism are the prime newsmakers of humanity.

]]> By: dsom http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21653 dsom Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:28:00 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21653 Generalization is not the correct way to deal with this kind of problem. It demonstrates that who write is not really involved with this kind of job. Generalization is not the correct way to deal with this kind of problem.

It demonstrates that who write is not really involved with this kind of job.

]]> By: Miles Evans http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21652 Miles Evans Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:06:00 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21652 Wow is a journalist with some basic SEO skillz ever going to write an article? This stuff isn't rocket science. I guess judging from the source (oh yeah I've been to Rapid City) we shouldn't expect much. The self promotion was hilarious! Wow is a journalist with some basic SEO skillz ever going to write an article? This stuff isn’t rocket science. I guess judging from the source (oh yeah I’ve been to Rapid City) we shouldn’t expect much.

The self promotion was hilarious!

]]> By: Abhilash http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21648 Abhilash Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:45:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21648 What a terrible sweeping generalization.. (that we hate to admit is true). This industry is still so young and foreign to so many that the barrier to entry is just too low. Clueless mom-and-pops will always want a shortcut for a job they don't understand, let alone equate with an incomprehensible yet necessary expense. That said... the more interesting story here could be that this post is now on the front page of Digg! hmmm... Neil & Cameron? Where are you guys and your non-guarantees? I know you're not headlining SES London... ;) What a terrible sweeping generalization.. (that we hate to admit is true). This industry is still so young and foreign to so many that the barrier to entry is just too low. Clueless mom-and-pops will always want a shortcut for a job they don’t understand, let alone equate with an incomprehensible yet necessary expense.

That said… the more interesting story here could be that this post is now on the front page of Digg! hmmm… Neil & Cameron? Where are you guys and your non-guarantees? I know you’re not headlining SES London… ;)

]]> By: Most SEOs are crooks? « Digged Stories http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21646 Most SEOs are crooks? « Digged Stories Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:30:10 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21646 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: Allan Drake http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21645 Allan Drake Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:28:02 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21645 I think this article is BS. Most SEOs probably do a good job. They do not garantee traffic however, unless they work with you on the longterm. This article is irresponsible. I think I am going to blog about it on my website. I think this article is BS. Most SEOs probably do a good job. They do not garantee traffic however, unless they work with you on the longterm. This article is irresponsible. I think I am going to blog about it on my website.

]]> By: Zach Katkin Naples Florida Web Design http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21641 Zach Katkin Naples Florida Web Design Thu, 01 Feb 2007 04:12:04 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21641 The companies or people that fall for poor or blackhat SEOs are foolish. True SEO is a hard sell, a good SEO will never promise the sky. Hence the old saying, "if it looks too good to be true, it probably is." The companies or people that fall for poor or blackhat SEOs are foolish. True SEO is a hard sell, a good SEO will never promise the sky. Hence the old saying, “if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.”

]]> By: ogletree http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21631 ogletree Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:21:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21631 Every industry has it group of crooks like Used cars or Any kind of repairman. It is a good idea to look into any company before you hire them. Every industry has it group of crooks like Used cars or Any kind of repairman. It is a good idea to look into any company before you hire them.

]]> By: Jon Henshaw http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21630 Jon Henshaw Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:18:25 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21630 I think this is a case of the so-called "crooks" making more noise than those that aren't. If you're someone who actually awards your business to people who spam you, then you probably deserve to get screwed by a "crook" SEO. For the most part, good SEOs have people coming to them and not vice-versa. They also, like myself, are very upfront about what can and can't be guaranteed. I always go through an educational myth-busting process with all my clients. As always, if it sounds too good to be true... I think this is a case of the so-called “crooks” making more noise than those that aren’t. If you’re someone who actually awards your business to people who spam you, then you probably deserve to get screwed by a “crook” SEO.

For the most part, good SEOs have people coming to them and not vice-versa. They also, like myself, are very upfront about what can and can’t be guaranteed. I always go through an educational myth-busting process with all my clients.

As always, if it sounds too good to be true…

]]> By: Ivan Minic http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21627 Ivan Minic Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:26:27 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21627 "Most SEOs are crooks?" Yes. “Most SEOs are crooks?”
Yes.

]]> By: SeattleSEO http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21626 SeattleSEO Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:50:20 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21626 Most writers of generalizations are boring and dare I say it, unimaginative. You can avoid this dull drivel by doing a little research and maintaining an open mind. Most writers of generalizations are boring and dare I say it, unimaginative.
You can avoid this dull drivel by doing a little research and maintaining an open mind.

]]> By: Webmaster http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html/comment-page-1#comment-21625 Webmaster Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:24:50 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/most-seos-are-crooks.html#comment-21625 The article implies that SEO is hanky panky so Mom-Pop shops should spend more money on "click fraud" advertising. Web is owned by webmasters, Vulture capitalists will never take it over welcome to web 2.0 crashville festival 2008 summer! The article implies that SEO is hanky panky so Mom-Pop shops should spend more money on “click fraud” advertising.

Web is owned by webmasters, Vulture capitalists will never take it over welcome to web 2.0 crashville festival 2008 summer!

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