Comments on: Sentiment Analysis for Internet Explorer; Comparing to Firefox http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ubuntu Just Sucks Less | Ubuntu Linux Help http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-40448 Ubuntu Just Sucks Less | Ubuntu Linux Help Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:46:02 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-40448 [...] the cursory hat tip to Marketing Pilgrim who does a sentiment analysis for firefox Vs. Internet Explorer, lets get started on Ubuntu and Windows. Sorry folks, I just could resist plugging in the words and [...] [...] the cursory hat tip to Marketing Pilgrim who does a sentiment analysis for firefox Vs. Internet Explorer, lets get started on Ubuntu and Windows. Sorry folks, I just could resist plugging in the words and [...]

]]> By: np revs http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-22482 np revs Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:11:16 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-22482 Here's an even better one: "Firefox is awesome" - 12,400 "IE is awesome" - 246 "Internet Explorer is awesome" - 3 Here’s an even better one:

“Firefox is awesome” – 12,400

“IE is awesome” – 246

“Internet Explorer is awesome” – 3

]]> By: np revs http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-22480 np revs Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:08:38 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-22480 "Searching Google’s main index, we discover almost twice as many pages claiming “Internet Explorer sucks” (43,400), versus those thinking the same of Firefox (22,100)." This is actually a *huge underestimation* of anti-Internet Explorer sentiment because most people refer to it as 'IE'. Google gives 117,000 results for "IE sucks" and only 557 for "FF sucks". Adding those to the searches you did, gives you these totals: IE / Internet Explorer Sucks: 170,000 FF / Firefox sucks: 22,700 “Searching Google’s main index, we discover almost twice as many pages claiming “Internet Explorer sucks” (43,400), versus those thinking the same of Firefox (22,100).”

This is actually a *huge underestimation* of anti-Internet Explorer sentiment because most people refer to it as ‘IE’.

Google gives 117,000 results for “IE sucks” and only 557 for “FF sucks”. Adding those to the searches you did, gives you these totals:

IE / Internet Explorer Sucks: 170,000

FF / Firefox sucks: 22,700

]]> By: Bill Read http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-21551 Bill Read Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:07:14 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-21551 I have found this link for browser statistics http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp it shows firefox at 30% Bill I have found this link for browser statistics http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp it shows firefox at 30%
Bill

]]> By: Bill Read http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-21451 Bill Read Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:55:24 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-21451 I had never considered using a different browser till IE7 caused me problems. I reverted back to IE6 and tried Firefox. I liked Firefox and made it my default browser. I am also surprised how much quicker my computer starts on these settings, Bill I had never considered using a different browser till IE7 caused me problems.
I reverted back to IE6 and tried Firefox.
I liked Firefox and made it my default browser.
I am also surprised how much quicker my computer starts on these settings,
Bill

]]> By: beerfan http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-21149 beerfan Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:25:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-21149 I found a IE7, which claims to be the first third party site, which lists known issues with the browser. http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html When I first saw that page I thought perhaps it was a parody site, since there are so many huge issues list and instructions for uninstalling the browser, but it seems to be a sincere site. Rather telling... I found a IE7, which claims to be the first third party site, which lists known issues with the browser.

http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html

When I first saw that page I thought perhaps it was a parody site, since there are so many huge issues list and instructions for uninstalling the browser, but it seems to be a sincere site. Rather telling…

]]> By: Keith http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-20088 Keith Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:03:48 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-20088 I have both IE7 and Firefox 2.0 running, with FF as my default. IE7 runs well with popups and Flash ads , even with MS's blockers running (I solved some of this with NoFlash). However, it also runs JAVA applets, no sweat--latest and earlier V's. I hate those interrupting ads to a degree I cannot express in any wholesome way. On the other hand, FF2.0 w AdBlock Plus wipes out almost all popups, flashing ads & banners, etc. BUT, and this is a big BUT, I cannot get FF2 or earlier to do Applets, even after spending multi-hours uninstalling all earlier JAVA V's, cleaning out my Registry references to earlier J's. Therefore, I am stuck with 2 browsers, neither of which solves all problems with those GD-MFg ads. I have both IE7 and Firefox 2.0 running, with FF as my default. IE7 runs well with popups and Flash ads , even with MS’s blockers running (I solved some of this with NoFlash). However, it also runs JAVA applets, no sweat–latest and earlier V’s. I hate those interrupting ads to a degree I cannot express in any wholesome way.

On the other hand, FF2.0 w AdBlock Plus wipes out almost all popups, flashing ads & banners, etc. BUT, and this is a big BUT, I cannot get FF2 or earlier to do Applets, even after spending multi-hours uninstalling all earlier JAVA V’s, cleaning out my Registry references to earlier J’s. Therefore, I am stuck with 2 browsers, neither of which solves all problems with those GD-MFg ads.

]]> By: ikt http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-18216 ikt Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:26:15 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-18216 IE7 is fine. "because they know *how* to use that program. In Microsofts case they keep changing the UI." They changed the UI once. IE6 to IE7. People are fine with it. I've not heard one complaint except when coming here to anti-microsoft propergander sites. Grow up. If Firefox really was that good it'd sell itself like google..but it doesn't. so you lose. IE7 is fine.

“because they know *how* to use that program. In Microsofts case they keep changing the UI.”

They changed the UI once. IE6 to IE7.

People are fine with it. I’ve not heard one complaint except when coming here to anti-microsoft propergander sites.

Grow up. If Firefox really was that good it’d sell itself like google..but it doesn’t. so you lose.

]]> By: Tahir Azhar http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-17807 Tahir Azhar Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:10:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-17807 Just to confirm when the search was made using KeywordDiscovery’s database, quotes were used or not around uninstall internet explorer? Just to confirm when the search was made using KeywordDiscovery’s database, quotes were used or not around uninstall internet explorer?

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16972 Andy Beal Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:03:57 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16972 Heathen Dan, you weren't supposed to notice that - 'cos I didn't. ;-) Heathen Dan, you weren’t supposed to notice that – ‘cos I didn’t. ;-)

]]> By: Andrew http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16970 Andrew Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:59:44 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16970 I work for a Fortune 500 retailer that receives several million visits per month from a user base that somewhat resembles the average internet user. For the two months before and after the IE 7.0 release, we've seen the following: IE 6.0 - Began at 89% of visits, Currently 66% IE 7.0 - Began at 1.5% of visits, Currently 23% FF - Began at 9.3% of visits, Currently 10.9% These numbers exclude the long tail of niche or outdated browser versions. It leads me to believe that for the average user, the IE 7.0 upgrade was not catastrophic enough to warrant switching browsers. I work for a Fortune 500 retailer that receives several million visits per month from a user base that somewhat resembles the average internet user. For the two months before and after the IE 7.0 release, we’ve seen the following:

IE 6.0 – Began at 89% of visits, Currently 66%
IE 7.0 – Began at 1.5% of visits, Currently 23%
FF – Began at 9.3% of visits, Currently 10.9%

These numbers exclude the long tail of niche or outdated browser versions. It leads me to believe that for the average user, the IE 7.0 upgrade was not catastrophic enough to warrant switching browsers.

]]> By: Heathen Dan http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16954 Heathen Dan Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:56:27 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16954 I agree with Mark's sentiment. IE just has a bigger userbase than FF. Also, IE is much harder to uninstall (it could break your system). FF, on the other hand, can be uninstalled with a few clicks. With such ease, I wouldn't expect most people to need google to help them uninstall FF. And since Andy points out that FF has a 10% market share (maybe more), then his statistic that FF has half as many "FF sucks" pages as IE is more than what we would expect (if all things were equal:p). And no, I don't use IE or even Microsoft (I'm posting this on Opera in Xubuntu Linux). I agree with Mark’s sentiment. IE just has a bigger userbase than FF. Also, IE is much harder to uninstall (it could break your system). FF, on the other hand, can be uninstalled with a few clicks. With such ease, I wouldn’t expect most people to need google to help them uninstall FF.

And since Andy points out that FF has a 10% market share (maybe more), then his statistic that FF has half as many “FF sucks” pages as IE is more than what we would expect (if all things were equal:p).

And no, I don’t use IE or even Microsoft (I’m posting this on Opera in Xubuntu Linux).

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16929 Andy Beal Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:13:52 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16929 Fair point Mark, but if we assume that Firefox has a 10% market share, wouldn't we be seeing a number that is closer to 1430 than 143 (if all things were equal)? Fair point Mark, but if we assume that Firefox has a 10% market share, wouldn’t we be seeing a number that is closer to 1430 than 143 (if all things were equal)?

]]> By: Mark T http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16895 Mark T Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:06:15 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16895 Hmmm...Is there an underlying reason that there would be 143 uninstall on Firefox vs 10,313 on IE7 (other than it simply sucks)? Since IE is the default browser for almost everyone, there is a significantly larger number of people who are using it to begin with right? Are these stats sort of circumstantial evidence? Hmmm…Is there an underlying reason that there would be 143 uninstall on Firefox vs 10,313 on IE7 (other than it simply sucks)? Since IE is the default browser for almost everyone, there is a significantly larger number of people who are using it to begin with right? Are these stats sort of circumstantial evidence?

]]> By: Ubuntu Just Sucks Less « Ubuntu Blog http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16602 Ubuntu Just Sucks Less « Ubuntu Blog Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:01:12 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16602 [...] Just Sucks Less January 9, 2007 Posted by ubuntonista in ubuntu, commentary. trackback With the cursory hat tip to Marketing Pilgrim who does a sentiment analysis for firefox Vs.Internet Explorer, lets get started on Ubuntu and Windows. Sorry folks, I just could resist plugging in the words and let them duke it out. [...] [...] Just Sucks Less January 9, 2007 Posted by ubuntonista in ubuntu, commentary. trackback With the cursory hat tip to Marketing Pilgrim who does a sentiment analysis for firefox Vs.Internet Explorer, lets get started on Ubuntu and Windows. Sorry folks, I just could resist plugging in the words and let them duke it out. [...]

]]> By: The Browser Den » Blog Archive » Feedback not so good on IE7 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16542 The Browser Den » Blog Archive » Feedback not so good on IE7 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:14:26 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16542 [...] Marketing Pilgrim have taken a look at the feedback the blogging world has produced about IE7. Most of it has appeared not so good. Although when I done my IE7 review a week after release I said the browser was an improvement over IE6 I did mention that the non-standard user interface could be very off putting to users who have the automatic upgrades enabled. Although Firefox tries to make their interface comfortable for migrating IE6 users, the interface in IE7 is drastically different. [...] [...] Marketing Pilgrim have taken a look at the feedback the blogging world has produced about IE7. Most of it has appeared not so good. Although when I done my IE7 review a week after release I said the browser was an improvement over IE6 I did mention that the non-standard user interface could be very off putting to users who have the automatic upgrades enabled. Although Firefox tries to make their interface comfortable for migrating IE6 users, the interface in IE7 is drastically different. [...]

]]> By: Ged http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16257 Ged Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:48:48 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16257 <a href="http://www.etre.com/blog/2006/10/ie7_were_they_ready/" rel="nofollow">Etre estimates that around 12.7 million websites are broken in IE7!</a> Another reason for the browser's fall in popularity. Etre estimates that around 12.7 million websites are broken in IE7! Another reason for the browser’s fall in popularity.

]]> By: Bill http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16171 Bill Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:34:39 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16171 It's just a browser. When people start saying Windows sux and migrate to Apple or worse *nix, then MS will care. It’s just a browser.

When people start saying Windows sux and migrate to Apple or worse *nix, then MS will care.

]]> By: Christer Edwards http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html/comment-page-1#comment-16164 Christer Edwards Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:22:44 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/01/sentiment-analysis-for-internet-explorer-comparing-to-firefox.html#comment-16164 Since the release of Firefox 2 I have also seen an increase in my Firefox based browser numbers. IE continues to drop and I think Microsoft did more harm than good with the UI change in IE7. When will they learn that most people use a program (or continue to use a program) because they know *how* to use that program. In Microsofts case they keep changing the UI. Since the release of Firefox 2 I have also seen an increase in my Firefox based browser numbers. IE continues to drop and I think Microsoft did more harm than good with the UI change in IE7.

When will they learn that most people use a program (or continue to use a program) because they know *how* to use that program. In Microsofts case they keep changing the UI.

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