Comments on: Testing New Plugin to Reward Top Commentators http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rewarding Top Commenters http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22262 Rewarding Top Commenters Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:10:34 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22262 [...] So, following the Marketing Pilgrim’s lead I’m testing a new Wordpress plugin (Show Top Commentators) that allows you to earn some Link Love from me. [...] [...] So, following the Marketing Pilgrim’s lead I’m testing a new WordPress plugin (Show Top Commentators) that allows you to earn some Link Love from me. [...]

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22260 Andy Beal Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:11:44 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22260 Ok guys, I think everyone's had their chance to get a few comments using this post. I'm going to close the comments to this post, so it doesn't get ridiculous :-) Ok guys, I think everyone’s had their chance to get a few comments using this post. I’m going to close the comments to this post, so it doesn’t get ridiculous :-)

]]> By: Drew Stauffer http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22259 Drew Stauffer Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:07:40 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22259 Haha...that was funny about the lottery Andy. "It’s all interesting to watch. One strange thing. I’m starting to get a glimpse of what it’s like to win the lottery. All of a sudden I have all of these friends, and I start question their motives. I’m sure I’ll shake it off." Can I borrow 50,000 links? Haha…that was funny about the lottery Andy.

“It’s all interesting to watch. One strange thing. I’m starting to get a glimpse of what it’s like to win the lottery. All of a sudden I have all of these friends, and I start question their motives. I’m sure I’ll shake it off.”

Can I borrow 50,000 links?

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22258 Andy Beal Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:57:05 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22258 Thanks Jason. I may consider that, if it gets out of hand. Thanks Jason. I may consider that, if it gets out of hand.

]]> By: Jason http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22257 Jason Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:45:20 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22257 Wow! I can't believe the response you're getting. I woke up this morning and there were 10 more notifications that this thread had been responded to. I think I'm going to respond to this thread 4 times too! Nah. My link doesn't even show up. There must be another Jason I'm being confused with. Perhaps, if I feel like it, I'll use my full name. But honestly, I'm not too concerned about it. There is a plugin somewhere that allows users to vote for/against a comment's post. I'm not sure if it is compatible with the mods you have now, but if it were you wouldn't be far off from SEOmoz. However, something else I'd strongly consider is moving to a "login required to comment" system. It will help you better manage/moderate abusive users and help you build a mailing list of internet marketers who may just be interested in a MP newsletter in the future. Wow! I can’t believe the response you’re getting. I woke up this morning and there were 10 more notifications that this thread had been responded to. I think I’m going to respond to this thread 4 times too!

Nah. My link doesn’t even show up. There must be another Jason I’m being confused with. Perhaps, if I feel like it, I’ll use my full name. But honestly, I’m not too concerned about it.

There is a plugin somewhere that allows users to vote for/against a comment’s post. I’m not sure if it is compatible with the mods you have now, but if it were you wouldn’t be far off from SEOmoz.

However, something else I’d strongly consider is moving to a “login required to comment” system. It will help you better manage/moderate abusive users and help you build a mailing list of internet marketers who may just be interested in a MP newsletter in the future.

]]> By: kelvin newman http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22255 kelvin newman Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:29:54 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22255 I spose if you were against the idea that the leader board would encourage excessive posting, it might be possible to incorporate some kind of scoring system. So a few highly rated comments are more valuable than a ton of rubbish ones. I spose if you were against the idea that the leader board would encourage excessive posting, it might be possible to incorporate some kind of scoring system. So a few highly rated comments are more valuable than a ton of rubbish ones.

]]> By: Jason Schramm http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22254 Jason Schramm Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:25:07 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22254 Since I benefit from this currently I'd say it is a great idea. It does make gaming the system all the more important, because the top commentators link has a lot more juice. But it's better than turning of NoFollow completely. Every since I turned it off for my site a few weeks ago I have had to monitor comments a lot more closely. And then you have the issue of deciding whether a comment should be approved, denied, or approved with links removed. It's a big hassle that could be solved by a plugin that would let people choose whether to remove nofollow for individual comments in the moderation area. Since I benefit from this currently I’d say it is a great idea. It does make gaming the system all the more important, because the top commentators link has a lot more juice. But it’s better than turning of NoFollow completely. Every since I turned it off for my site a few weeks ago I have had to monitor comments a lot more closely. And then you have the issue of deciding whether a comment should be approved, denied, or approved with links removed. It’s a big hassle that could be solved by a plugin that would let people choose whether to remove nofollow for individual comments in the moderation area.

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22251 Andy Beal Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:33:11 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22251 All good feedback. I'm not going to insist on a URL for anyone commenting - Rhea is a good example of who that would penalize. While I agree that a single commentator could provide great value with just one comment, they would be out numbered by all the "drive by" comments from people just hoping to get a backlink. If someone leaves a really valuable comment, I try to add it to the actual post, with a full link credit. It's all interesting to watch. One strange thing. I'm starting to get a glimpse of what it's like to win the lottery. All of a sudden I have all of these friends, and I start question their motives. I'm sure I'll shake it off. :-) All good feedback. I’m not going to insist on a URL for anyone commenting – Rhea is a good example of who that would penalize.

While I agree that a single commentator could provide great value with just one comment, they would be out numbered by all the “drive by” comments from people just hoping to get a backlink.

If someone leaves a really valuable comment, I try to add it to the actual post, with a full link credit.

It’s all interesting to watch. One strange thing. I’m starting to get a glimpse of what it’s like to win the lottery. All of a sudden I have all of these friends, and I start question their motives. I’m sure I’ll shake it off. :-)

]]> By: Maki http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22249 Maki Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:25:55 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22249 I've been getting a lot of updates since I subscribed to the comments for this post. Looks like it's working! :) Anyway, I thought about it and agree with Andy Beard that NoFollow might be better instead of Top Commenters. Why? Everyone gets a benefit not just the zealous commenters. Someone might write an excellent comment that sheds tremendous light on an issue but write much less or nothing on other posts. You know, the usually silent but very deadly type of commenter? Of course, if you choose to run both No Follow and Top Commenters..you'll have the best damn blog in the world. :) I’ve been getting a lot of updates since I subscribed to the comments for this post. Looks like it’s working! :)

Anyway, I thought about it and agree with Andy Beard that NoFollow might be better instead of Top Commenters.

Why? Everyone gets a benefit not just the zealous commenters. Someone might write an excellent comment that sheds tremendous light on an issue but write much less or nothing on other posts.

You know, the usually silent but very deadly type of commenter?

Of course, if you choose to run both No Follow and Top Commenters..you’ll have the best damn blog in the world. :)

]]> By: Simon Heseltine http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22248 Simon Heseltine Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:19:46 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22248 Agreed, heck the winner of the mybloglog iPod/Zune contest doesn't have her own blog, but she still won :) Agreed, heck the winner of the mybloglog iPod/Zune contest doesn’t have her own blog, but she still won :)

]]> By: kelvin newman http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22247 kelvin newman Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:04:02 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22247 I would allow people to post without urls, sometimes you might want to make an anon post or something. Plus it might discourage some of the less experienced readers from posting. I think comments benefit from having as low a barrier of entry as possible. I would allow people to post without urls, sometimes you might want to make an anon post or something. Plus it might discourage some of the less experienced readers from posting.

I think comments benefit from having as low a barrier of entry as possible.

]]> By: Dave Davis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22246 Dave Davis Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:00:12 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22246 You should also take a look at Andy Beard's comment policy and set it up similar to that. It insures everyone reads it and I was impressed with his creativity. You are going to have the odd one or two abusing it. Also, maybe you may want to exclude commenters without a URL? You should also take a look at Andy Beard’s comment policy and set it up similar to that. It insures everyone reads it and I was impressed with his creativity. You are going to have the odd one or two abusing it.

Also, maybe you may want to exclude commenters without a URL?

]]> By: kelvin newman http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22245 kelvin newman Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:15:26 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22245 You've got to admire the effort! I imagine that's a side effect of announcing the leader board. As it sinks in people will calm down to normal commenting levels. A bit like the the YouMoz Blog was chockha block when it first launched but seems to have settled down to a more reasonable level now. You’ve got to admire the effort! I imagine that’s a side effect of announcing the leader board. As it sinks in people will calm down to normal commenting levels.

A bit like the the YouMoz Blog was chockha block when it first launched but seems to have settled down to a more reasonable level now.

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22244 Andy Beal Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:09:20 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22244 Well, look for a comment policy coming today. I already have one person who commented on half a dozen posts in just 6 minutes! Well, look for a comment policy coming today. I already have one person who commented on half a dozen posts in just 6 minutes!

]]> By: kelvin newman http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22242 kelvin newman Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:22:06 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22242 It will be a interesting experiment, mainly cause I'm reasonably high up the list at the moment! Mainly because there are plenty of stories worthy of comment here. It will be a interesting experiment, mainly cause I’m reasonably high up the list at the moment!

Mainly because there are plenty of stories worthy of comment here.

]]> By: Terry Ng http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22234 Terry Ng Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:25:05 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22234 Wonderful idea. Another incentive would be to include the person's avatar next to their name in the top commenters list. :) Wonderful idea. Another incentive would be to include the person’s avatar next to their name in the top commenters list. :)

]]> By: Dave Davis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22228 Dave Davis Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:15:19 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22228 This also gives a great incentive to comment. I post on many forums and my reward for contributing is a link in my sig. Not powerful by any means, but a link back nonetheless. I think it's great you have taken these steps Andy. This also gives a great incentive to comment. I post on many forums and my reward for contributing is a link in my sig. Not powerful by any means, but a link back nonetheless.

I think it’s great you have taken these steps Andy.

]]> By: Jordan Glogau http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22227 Jordan Glogau Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:53:21 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22227 Me Too Me Two Me Three Sorry, just couldn't resist. ;-) Jordan Me Too
Me Two
Me Three

Sorry, just couldn’t resist.

;-)

Jordan

]]> By: Andy Beard http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22220 Andy Beard Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:03:13 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22220 I appreciate the backlink, but think it would be much better to use nofollow on comments for a number of reasons. 1. It is permanent 2. It is less of a juice leak if you structure your single pages with plenty of internal links. You are already using internal tagging, and a tag cloud to do this - you could easily increase the cloud size on posts that get a lot of comments 3. If people are smart when leaving comment, they will use the link for deep linking to related content, which makes it a win win situation. 4. Lots of Meme trackers are not very smart - there is a chance that sitewide link helped get me on Techmeme today (ok so I shouldn't complain) - true I deserved it for my Polish Poets coverage, but you didn't really link to me. I appreciate the backlink, but think it would be much better to use nofollow on comments for a number of reasons.

1. It is permanent
2. It is less of a juice leak if you structure your single pages with plenty of internal links. You are already using internal tagging, and a tag cloud to do this – you could easily increase the cloud size on posts that get a lot of comments
3. If people are smart when leaving comment, they will use the link for deep linking to related content, which makes it a win win situation.
4. Lots of Meme trackers are not very smart – there is a chance that sitewide link helped get me on Techmeme today (ok so I shouldn’t complain) – true I deserved it for my Polish Poets coverage, but you didn’t really link to me.

]]> By: Chris Dohman http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html/comment-page-1#comment-22219 Chris Dohman Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:58:55 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/testing-new-plugin-to-reward-top-commentators.html#comment-22219 Thanks for the heads up on this wordpress plug-in. I've been toying with the idea of getting rid of the no-follow on my comments but have not done that at this point. This added incentive to attract comments should be good for newer blogs like mine which do not have a solid base of readers or comments yet. I might have to plug it in. This is also a great way for us new bloggers to contribute to other blogs, introduce themselves (hi, I'm Chris), plus you can't ignore the chance for picking up a decent link in the process. Thanks again, Thanks for the heads up on this wordpress plug-in. I’ve been toying with the idea of getting rid of the no-follow on my comments but have not done that at this point. This added incentive to attract comments should be good for newer blogs like mine which do not have a solid base of readers or comments yet. I might have to plug it in.

This is also a great way for us new bloggers to contribute to other blogs, introduce themselves (hi, I’m Chris), plus you can’t ignore the chance for picking up a decent link in the process.

Thanks again,

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