Comments on: Time to Say Goodbye to the NoFollow Tag? http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:44:08 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Peter T Davis » Blog Archive » The never-ending nofollow debate http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-38391 Peter T Davis » Blog Archive » The never-ending nofollow debate Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:11:06 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-38391 [...] this on Marketing Pilgrim in response to his speculation whether it will increase comment spam or the [...] [...] this on Marketing Pilgrim in response to his speculation whether it will increase comment spam or the [...]

]]> By: The Single, Most Profound Way To Thank Your Commenters - Dawud Miracle @ dmiracle.com - (formerly Healthy WebDesign) http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-23702 The Single, Most Profound Way To Thank Your Commenters - Dawud Miracle @ dmiracle.com - (formerly Healthy WebDesign) Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:58:06 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-23702 [...] So I say, let’s ditch it. Let’s get rid of this little piece of code. And let’s start giving link love to everyone who comments on our blog. Isn’t it the least we can do to thank them for being a part of our conversations? [...] [...] So I say, let’s ditch it. Let’s get rid of this little piece of code. And let’s start giving link love to everyone who comments on our blog. Isn’t it the least we can do to thank them for being a part of our conversations? [...]

]]> By: Peter Davis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22283 Peter Davis Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:51:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22283 Tim, it's been perverted way beyond that even. I've seen directories that ask for a fee if you want the nofollow removed, but then Google actually recommends to pay for directory links, but then they say the paid directory links aren't paid links at all but you pay for the "review" but they don't explain how they're going to know who's qualified to accept payement for a "reviewed" link as opposed to who's links are paid spam, or is it just Yahoo that's allowed to do that? Tim, it’s been perverted way beyond that even. I’ve seen directories that ask for a fee if you want the nofollow removed, but then Google actually recommends to pay for directory links, but then they say the paid directory links aren’t paid links at all but you pay for the “review” but they don’t explain how they’re going to know who’s qualified to accept payement for a “reviewed” link as opposed to who’s links are paid spam, or is it just Yahoo that’s allowed to do that?

]]> By: Tim Linden http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22281 Tim Linden Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:45:05 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22281 It should go away until there is some kind of standard. It makes no sense that something created to prevent spam is now supposed to be used for paid links. So that makes the spam and paid links the same again, so spammers would be spamming to get the same benefit as the paid links. Which is basically a chance that someone will see it and click it. It should go away until there is some kind of standard. It makes no sense that something created to prevent spam is now supposed to be used for paid links. So that makes the spam and paid links the same again, so spammers would be spamming to get the same benefit as the paid links. Which is basically a chance that someone will see it and click it.

]]> By: Steven Bradley http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22091 Steven Bradley Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:38:53 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22091 Thanks for the links Jeremy. nofollow doesn't really bother me. I don't think it does anything to stop automated comment spam though, since I think those are done more for the direct traffic anyway. I would be concerned that there would be more of the useless 'me too' type comments and I would expect more people would embed links into comments if the nofollow wasn't there. Even if the nofollow were to go away does anyone really think a link from a blog comment is going to be worth all that much? I would think they'd end up on par with a forum signature link. Would removing the nofollow be all that much of a reward for loyal commenters? Thanks for the links Jeremy.

nofollow doesn’t really bother me. I don’t think it does anything to stop automated comment spam though, since I think those are done more for the direct traffic anyway.

I would be concerned that there would be more of the useless ‘me too’ type comments and I would expect more people would embed links into comments if the nofollow wasn’t there.

Even if the nofollow were to go away does anyone really think a link from a blog comment is going to be worth all that much? I would think they’d end up on par with a forum signature link. Would removing the nofollow be all that much of a reward for loyal commenters?

]]> By: Jeremy Luebke http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22065 Jeremy Luebke Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:19:41 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22065 If you haven't already, everyone should follow some of the advice of John Chow. By implementing just a few of his techniques, spam almost disappears. At least the automated kind does. The manual stuff always has to be handled manually. http://www.johnchow.com/die-spammers-die/ http://www.johnchow.com/die-spammers-die-part-2/ If you haven’t already, everyone should follow some of the advice of John Chow. By implementing just a few of his techniques, spam almost disappears. At least the automated kind does. The manual stuff always has to be handled manually.

http://www.johnchow.com/die-spammers-die/
http://www.johnchow.com/die-spammers-die-part-2/

]]> By: Andy Beard http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22055 Andy Beard Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:41:40 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22055 I have looked at all kinds of ways to just have followable links for the people who deserve it, and none of them left me with that warm glowing feeling that it was the right way to do it. If people are leaving real comments, they shouldn't be subject to a comment threshold to get followable links. That encourages poor quality comments. It shouldn't be subject to some kind of karma - that encourages people to leave comments that are going to be "Dugg" by other commenters in some kind of incestuous alliance. My solution has always to have a clear comments policy, and to delete the "nice post" kind of comments. Remember you are using subscribe by email. Do you really want junk comments being sent to everyone in the conversation? What I am experimenting with is forcing people to read my comments policy before they are able to comment. Just get rid of the link condoms ;) I have looked at all kinds of ways to just have followable links for the people who deserve it, and none of them left me with that warm glowing feeling that it was the right way to do it.

If people are leaving real comments, they shouldn’t be subject to a comment threshold to get followable links. That encourages poor quality comments.

It shouldn’t be subject to some kind of karma – that encourages people to leave comments that are going to be “Dugg” by other commenters in some kind of incestuous alliance.

My solution has always to have a clear comments policy, and to delete the “nice post” kind of comments.

Remember you are using subscribe by email. Do you really want junk comments being sent to everyone in the conversation?

What I am experimenting with is forcing people to read my comments policy before they are able to comment.

Just get rid of the link condoms ;)

]]> By: webprofessor http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22052 webprofessor Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:11:57 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22052 Since when is linking to someone in a non-offensive way a bold move ? No follow is a concept that was corrupted from the start by google trying to use it as a proxy war against paid links. Since when is linking to someone in a non-offensive way a bold move ? No follow is a concept that was corrupted from the start by google trying to use it as a proxy war against paid links.

]]> By: Peter T Davis » The never-ending nofollow debate http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22050 Peter T Davis » The never-ending nofollow debate Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:31:14 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22050 [...] And this on Marketing Pilgrim in response to his speculation whether it will increase comment spam or the quality of comments. [...] [...] And this on Marketing Pilgrim in response to his speculation whether it will increase comment spam or the quality of comments. [...]

]]> By: Peter Davis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22048 Peter Davis Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:03:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22048 Yep, you're right on with that. But then, if anyone is going to be removing the nofollow from comments, they're in effect saying exactly that, that they're going to be taking each comment on a case by case basis to ensure that the site being linked to is of quality. IMO, that's the purpose of the nofollow, if it's a link that hasn't passed editorial control. If the blog's owner is going to check and vouch for each of them, then yea the nofollow doesn't need to be used. Yep, you’re right on with that. But then, if anyone is going to be removing the nofollow from comments, they’re in effect saying exactly that, that they’re going to be taking each comment on a case by case basis to ensure that the site being linked to is of quality. IMO, that’s the purpose of the nofollow, if it’s a link that hasn’t passed editorial control. If the blog’s owner is going to check and vouch for each of them, then yea the nofollow doesn’t need to be used.

]]> By: Webomatica http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22046 Webomatica Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:47:39 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22046 Peter - that is a good point. I'm sort of wondering if brief comments like that might deserve to be nuked. I'd definitely do so if it was from a commenter I didn't reconize and the URL was obviously something shifty. Of course, my blog doesn't get much traffic or many comments so it's still feasable for me to take each comment on a case by case basis...! Peter – that is a good point. I’m sort of wondering if brief comments like that might deserve to be nuked. I’d definitely do so if it was from a commenter I didn’t reconize and the URL was obviously something shifty.

Of course, my blog doesn’t get much traffic or many comments so it’s still feasable for me to take each comment on a case by case basis…!

]]> By: Doug Karr http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22044 Doug Karr Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:44:22 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22044 I installed no nofollow about a month ago... and then installed the wikipedia nofollow a few days later. I appreciate both. Having nofollow on your blog is like telling folks you don't want to promote their comment or respect their voice. I installed no nofollow about a month ago… and then installed the wikipedia nofollow a few days later. I appreciate both. Having nofollow on your blog is like telling folks you don’t want to promote their comment or respect their voice.

]]> By: Peter Davis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22037 Peter Davis Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:47:45 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22037 I wouldn't think it would increase the spam comments so much as lowering the general quality. You'd probably see more people posting a short, useless comment like "I agree" or "good post". I see it a lot in the forums, where people post crap posts just to get their signature into the thread. Not that it doesn't happen in blogs, but I'd think it would tend to increase when people think they might be getting some juice from the links. I wouldn’t think it would increase the spam comments so much as lowering the general quality. You’d probably see more people posting a short, useless comment like “I agree” or “good post”. I see it a lot in the forums, where people post crap posts just to get their signature into the thread. Not that it doesn’t happen in blogs, but I’d think it would tend to increase when people think they might be getting some juice from the links.

]]> By: Webomatica http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22036 Webomatica Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:25:04 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22036 I'm going to give DoFollow a shot and see what happens. Akismet already does an excellent job for me at nuking the spammy comments. And I want to encourage folks commenting on my blog. I’m going to give DoFollow a shot and see what happens. Akismet already does an excellent job for me at nuking the spammy comments. And I want to encourage folks commenting on my blog.

]]> By: Jason Schramm http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22034 Jason Schramm Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:47:00 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22034 I would definitely be interested in this new plugin. I am using DoFollow to disable NoFollow, but I would like to be able to have more control over who is NoFollowed and who isn't. Still, this is definitely a good sign and maybe I can start getting some juice again. I would definitely be interested in this new plugin. I am using DoFollow to disable NoFollow, but I would like to be able to have more control over who is NoFollowed and who isn’t. Still, this is definitely a good sign and maybe I can start getting some juice again.

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22033 Andy Beal Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:22:27 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22033 Let me test it first. ;-) Then I'll share. Let me test it first. ;-) Then I’ll share.

]]> By: Drew Stauffer http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html/comment-page-1#comment-22032 Drew Stauffer Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:16:50 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-the-nofollow-tag.html#comment-22032 Can you expand on the new plugin? Is it something that was custom made for your site or is it a third party plugin that we can all enjoy? It's a great idea, either way. Can you expand on the new plugin? Is it something that was custom made for your site or is it a third party plugin that we can all enjoy?

It’s a great idea, either way.

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