Comments on: The Guardian Trying to Undermine Blogging? http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Keegan and The Guardian get it wrong–and don’t correct it | Daily EM http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html/comment-page-1#comment-24638 Keegan and The Guardian get it wrong–and don’t correct it | Daily EM Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:48:35 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html#comment-24638 [...] The oped that Victor Keegan carried in the newspaper just a few days ago to me is laughable. As was pointed out by another commenter here, a growth of 100% per year seems phenomenal to everybody but Victor. [...] [...] The oped that Victor Keegan carried in the newspaper just a few days ago to me is laughable. As was pointed out by another commenter here, a growth of 100% per year seems phenomenal to everybody but Victor. [...]

]]> By: Paul Fabretti http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html/comment-page-1#comment-24490 Paul Fabretti Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:57:56 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html#comment-24490 Yeah, the early bird always catches the worm so I can understand the need to put something up there before the bloggers do! One thing I did feel about the guardian article (which ties in with what you were saying about the "definition" of a blogging platform) was that there was no opportunity for comment. Very dictatorial...very 1990's. I guess people will be forced to visit the site to see what the blogosphere is talking about...should boost the page views...very 1990's. Yeah, the early bird always catches the worm so I can understand the need to put something up there before the bloggers do!

One thing I did feel about the guardian article (which ties in with what you were saying about the “definition” of a blogging platform) was that there was no opportunity for comment. Very dictatorial…very 1990′s.

I guess people will be forced to visit the site to see what the blogosphere is talking about…should boost the page views…very 1990′s.

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html/comment-page-1#comment-24484 Seth Finkelstein Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:02:38 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html#comment-24484 Andy. blogging is arguably a tool for the "chattering classes" professions, people I call "talkers" - punidts, marketers, professionals who write as part of their job, and so on. That's really a very tiny percentage of the population. Though it's the percentage that's heard, so there's a distortion there. But for everyone else - if you're not absolutely fascinated by keeping a public diary, and most people aren't, there's no benefit, and a lot of wasted time. Or even a significant risk of hurting your employment prospects. Andy. blogging is arguably a tool for the “chattering classes” professions, people I call “talkers” – punidts, marketers, professionals who write as part of their job, and so on. That’s really a very tiny percentage of the population. Though it’s the percentage that’s heard, so there’s a distortion there.

But for everyone else – if you’re not absolutely fascinated by keeping a public diary, and most people aren’t, there’s no benefit, and a lot of wasted time. Or even a significant risk of hurting your employment prospects.

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html/comment-page-1#comment-24480 Andy Beal Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:15:09 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html#comment-24480 Hi Paul, some good points. I think we need to broaden what is considered a blog. There are a lot of news sites that publish daily, yet don't actually use a blogging platform. I think blogging has made a huge impact on the lives of the general public - just take a look at mainstream media. Would they feel so pressured to publish their content online and upload stories on the web before they hit print - if it weren't for bloggers beating them to the scoops! ;-) Hi Paul, some good points. I think we need to broaden what is considered a blog. There are a lot of news sites that publish daily, yet don’t actually use a blogging platform. I think blogging has made a huge impact on the lives of the general public – just take a look at mainstream media. Would they feel so pressured to publish their content online and upload stories on the web before they hit print – if it weren’t for bloggers beating them to the scoops! ;-)

]]> By: Paul Fabretti http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html/comment-page-1#comment-24469 Paul Fabretti Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:59:46 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html#comment-24469 I too saw the article Andy but had a slightly different take on it. You can't argue though with the fact that given blogging's headstart and ease of entry relative to myspace etc., if it was "all that" it should have reached the masses in the same way that myspace and facebook have. With blogs being part of social networking functionality, maybe blogging should be considered just one tool to communication rather than necessarily being THE tool to socialising online. I firmly believe that people are put off by the perceived high complexity of blogging (digg, technorati, sphere and the like, pingbacks, linking etc.) as well as the fact that the only type of blogging most people hear about in the mainstream media are technology-related. OK, maybe that's a conspiracy story for another day but a very valid point. People clearly want to find fit birds and blokes first and recount their daily lives (blog) second - maybe that is why so many myspace blogs go unused, yet home pages are flooded with content. I too saw the article Andy but had a slightly different take on it.

You can’t argue though with the fact that given blogging’s headstart and ease of entry relative to myspace etc., if it was “all that” it should have reached the masses in the same way that myspace and facebook have.

With blogs being part of social networking functionality, maybe blogging should be considered just one tool to communication rather than necessarily being THE tool to socialising online.

I firmly believe that people are put off by the perceived high complexity of blogging (digg, technorati, sphere and the like, pingbacks, linking etc.) as well as the fact that the only type of blogging most people hear about in the mainstream media are technology-related.

OK, maybe that’s a conspiracy story for another day but a very valid point.

People clearly want to find fit birds and blokes first and recount their daily lives (blog) second – maybe that is why so many myspace blogs go unused, yet home pages are flooded with content.

]]> By: Simon Heseltine http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html/comment-page-1#comment-24462 Simon Heseltine Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:12:52 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/04/the-guardian-trying-to-undermine-blogging.html#comment-24462 ...and assuming that the Grauniad (ok, I'm a private-eye reader) market share figure includes all newspapers in their portfolio, maybe the Racing post would pass them if you took out the figures for the Manchester Evening News? …and assuming that the Grauniad (ok, I’m a private-eye reader) market share figure includes all newspapers in their portfolio, maybe the Racing post would pass them if you took out the figures for the Manchester Evening News?

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