Comments on: Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales Wants to Have His Cake and Eat it too! http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dr. Carl Edwin Lindgren http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-63213 Dr. Carl Edwin Lindgren Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:43:51 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-63213 Wikipedia is at best garbage. The following remark appeared on Wikipedia - “What I’m seeing is a lot of puffed-up titles with little backing or significance, employment at something one step up from a diploma mill, and no sign of real academic notability (or for that matter real-world notability as measured by major media attention). —David Eppstein (talk) 08:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)” The ‘professor’ was referring in part to American Military University. AMU has over 30,000 students and is regionally accredited. When does this rubbish stop? I believe this is libel at best. Few academicians ever use Wikipedia. Try looking up the terrible job done on "chivalric orders". Carl Wikipedia is at best garbage. The following remark appeared on Wikipedia – “What I’m seeing is a lot of puffed-up titles with little backing or significance, employment at something one step up from a diploma mill, and no sign of real academic notability (or for that matter real-world notability as measured by major media attention). —David Eppstein (talk) 08:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)” The ‘professor’ was referring in part to American Military University. AMU has over 30,000 students and is regionally accredited. When does this rubbish stop? I believe this is libel at best. Few academicians ever use Wikipedia. Try looking up the terrible job done on “chivalric orders”.

Carl

]]> By: Matt Keegan http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-30003 Matt Keegan Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:37:38 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-30003 As Dr. Hill mentions, Wikipedia has flaws but so does the Encyclopedia Britannica at least according to <a href="http://news.com.com/Study+Wikipedia+as+accurate+as+Britannica/2100-1038_3-5997332.html" rel="nofollow">a study</a> comparing the reliability (or accuracy) of the two. As far as Search Wikia goes, he'll have to do a lot to make the site relevant -- the search engine shake out indicates that the strong are already on top and improving all of the time. As Dr. Hill mentions, Wikipedia has flaws but so does the Encyclopedia Britannica at least according to a study comparing the reliability (or accuracy) of the two. As far as Search Wikia goes, he’ll have to do a lot to make the site relevant — the search engine shake out indicates that the strong are already on top and improving all of the time.

]]> By: dr David Hill http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-29918 dr David Hill Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:32:36 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-29918 But how accurate is the information that Wikipedia supplies? A set of nerds who think that they know everything but where there is no authoritative reference. i.e to a qualified and highly experienced/respected authority (with 50 years on his or her back at least) et al leaves the information totally open to abuse. This is the greatest danger for the world-at-large, accepting what Wikipedia says without question and where if history is rewritten, future generations will just not know right from wrong. A terrible state of affairs for all future generations to come. The same thing will probably equate to the equivalent of Google. I would steer completely away, for the ramification for the future generations are grave to say the very least. Dr. David Hill Chief Executive World Innovation Foundation Charity Bern, Switzerland Registration no.CH-035.7.035.277-9 - 11th July 2005, in the Canton of Bern www.thewif.org.uk But how accurate is the information that Wikipedia supplies? A set of nerds who think that they know everything but where there is no authoritative reference. i.e to a qualified and highly experienced/respected authority (with 50 years on his or her back at least) et al leaves the information totally open to abuse. This is the greatest danger for the world-at-large, accepting what Wikipedia says without question and where if history is rewritten, future generations will just not know right from wrong. A terrible state of affairs for all future generations to come. The same thing will probably equate to the equivalent of Google. I would steer completely away, for the ramification for the future generations are grave to say the very least.
Dr. David Hill Chief Executive
World Innovation Foundation Charity
Bern, Switzerland Registration no.CH-035.7.035.277-9 – 11th July 2005, in the Canton of Bern www.thewif.org.uk

]]> By: Anghus http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-29788 Anghus Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:00:10 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-29788 Great post, Yesterday one of the biggest business newspaper also wrote an article about it in Norway. The first time I read it was in march 2007- Then the journalist wrote that Wikia was hoping to get 5% of the searchers. I mean, 5% how is that possible. My bet would be that Google, Yahoo and MSN will take actions against both Wikia and Wikipedia if they try to compete against them. It is also woth mentioning that at the time being, 70% av visitors to Wikipedia goes through the big three. Great post,

Yesterday one of the biggest business newspaper also wrote an article about it in Norway. The first time I read it was in march 2007- Then the journalist wrote that Wikia was hoping to get 5% of the searchers. I mean, 5% how is that possible. My bet would be that Google, Yahoo and MSN will take actions against both Wikia and Wikipedia if they try to compete against them.

It is also woth mentioning that at the time being, 70% av visitors to Wikipedia goes through the big three.

]]> By: Bushido http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-29786 Bushido Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:45:05 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-29786 I read about it yesterday on Digg. It'll be kind of complicated, you know what Agent Smith from The Matrix says: never count on a human to do a machine's job. :D I read about it yesterday on Digg. It’ll be kind of complicated, you know what Agent Smith from The Matrix says: never count on a human to do a machine’s job. :D

]]> By: Adam Jusko http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-29747 Adam Jusko Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:52:14 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-29747 It will be interesting to see if Wales can really get any large group to help him make his profit off of search. Wikipedia works because people feel good about contributing to a collective knowledge that has no strings attached. Working for free to help Wales make his tech stardom pay of in actual dollars is another matter. We debuted our human-powered search engine <a href="http://www.bessed.com" rel="nofollow">Bessed</a> just before the initial news reports about Wales' search effort came out. My initial reaction was that competing with such a project would be difficult, but now I think the project will be more of a mess than anything else. I'm not always a fan of Jason Calacanis, but at least he jumped in by paying people to contribute to his project. Jimmy Wales seems to think his reputation as some sort of Zen master will cause people to do his company's work without questioning why he's making money off of their labor. It will be interesting to find out how many disciples he actually has. It will be interesting to see if Wales can really get any large group to help him make his profit off of search. Wikipedia works because people feel good about contributing to a collective knowledge that has no strings attached. Working for free to help Wales make his tech stardom pay of in actual dollars is another matter.

We debuted our human-powered search engine Bessed just before the initial news reports about Wales’ search effort came out. My initial reaction was that competing with such a project would be difficult, but now I think the project will be more of a mess than anything else.

I’m not always a fan of Jason Calacanis, but at least he jumped in by paying people to contribute to his project. Jimmy Wales seems to think his reputation as some sort of Zen master will cause people to do his company’s work without questioning why he’s making money off of their labor. It will be interesting to find out how many disciples he actually has.

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-29710 Andy Beal Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:36:28 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-29710 @Glen - because they just made the acquisition. @Glen – because they just made the acquisition.

]]> By: Glen http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-29707 Glen Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:33:59 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/07/wikipedias-jimmy-wales-wants-to-have-his-cake-and-eat-it-too.html#comment-29707 Why is this just doing the internet rounds now? The interview was in netmagazine a couple of months ago Why is this just doing the internet rounds now? The interview was in netmagazine a couple of months ago

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