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	<title>Comments on: Senate Shielding Bloggers, Too</title>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/10/senate-shielding-bloggers-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-33959</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the advertising standard.  People have jumped all over that phrase, but I&#039;m pretty sure it&#039;s just a &quot;financial gain&quot; standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the advertising standard.  People have jumped all over that phrase, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s just a &#8220;financial gain&#8221; standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/10/senate-shielding-bloggers-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-33759</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jordan for the further clarification. That&#039;s what I suspected about a definition of journalism.

I agree completely about the need for a standard. The law isn&#039;t meant to be a shield for anyone to hide behind. I&#039;d question if advertising should be the standard, though. I would think you could be a journalist without making direct revenue from your blog. Would the advertising standard eliminate those who indirectly earn money from their blog. Say a journalist blogs freely in order to secure a book deal or a position at a paper.

I am glad to see bloggers are covered by the new laws. The determination for who does and doesn&#039;t get protection shouldn&#039;t be the media in which they publish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jordan for the further clarification. That&#8217;s what I suspected about a definition of journalism.</p>
<p>I agree completely about the need for a standard. The law isn&#8217;t meant to be a shield for anyone to hide behind. I&#8217;d question if advertising should be the standard, though. I would think you could be a journalist without making direct revenue from your blog. Would the advertising standard eliminate those who indirectly earn money from their blog. Say a journalist blogs freely in order to secure a book deal or a position at a paper.</p>
<p>I am glad to see bloggers are covered by the new laws. The determination for who does and doesn&#8217;t get protection shouldn&#8217;t be the media in which they publish.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/10/senate-shielding-bloggers-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-33664</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steven&#8212;I think a number of those concerns are addressed by the law.  It gives a definition of journalism which says nothing about featuring a printed version.  Journalists, then, would be people who engaged in journalism.

As discussed after the first bill, there has to be some standard to prevent people from simply throwing up a blog to publish information (which is only really of interest when it harmful and/or incriminatory) and receive automatic shielding. 

The advertising standard (blogs must be supported by advertising&#8212;just like virtually all newspapers, magazines and other media, online and off-, already are) is in place to try to curb that.  

This law has nothing to do with the freedom of the press or freedom of speech.  No law will stop you from publishing anonymous comments from someone who didn&#039;t wish for you to divulge his/her name.  

Thirty-five years ago the Supreme Court ruled that the freedom of the press explicitly does &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; mean that you are exempt from ever divulging your sources.  There is no Constitutional protection for keeping sources secret.

The point of both bills is that they DO include bloggers specifically.  This is a huge step forward, since it would probably take years and rounds of court battles to make sure that the law extended to bloggers otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steven&mdash;I think a number of those concerns are addressed by the law.  It gives a definition of journalism which says nothing about featuring a printed version.  Journalists, then, would be people who engaged in journalism.</p>
<p>As discussed after the first bill, there has to be some standard to prevent people from simply throwing up a blog to publish information (which is only really of interest when it harmful and/or incriminatory) and receive automatic shielding. </p>
<p>The advertising standard (blogs must be supported by advertising&mdash;just like virtually all newspapers, magazines and other media, online and off-, already are) is in place to try to curb that.  </p>
<p>This law has nothing to do with the freedom of the press or freedom of speech.  No law will stop you from publishing anonymous comments from someone who didn&#8217;t wish for you to divulge his/her name.  </p>
<p>Thirty-five years ago the Supreme Court ruled that the freedom of the press explicitly does <em>not</em> mean that you are exempt from ever divulging your sources.  There is no Constitutional protection for keeping sources secret.</p>
<p>The point of both bills is that they DO include bloggers specifically.  This is a huge step forward, since it would probably take years and rounds of court battles to make sure that the law extended to bloggers otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bushido</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/10/senate-shielding-bloggers-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-33661</link>
		<dc:creator>Bushido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They want to oblige people to reveal their sources, does this include a link to the original author&#039;s site? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They want to oblige people to reveal their sources, does this include a link to the original author&#8217;s site? <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/10/senate-shielding-bloggers-too.html/comment-page-1#comment-33655</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of thoughts came to mind while reading this.

First what&#039;s the definition of a journalist? What are the criteria that need to be met in order for a journalist to be granted protection from having to reveal a source? Is there anything in those criteria that require the published material to be in print as opposed to online?

If tomorrow the New York Times decided to stop publishing a printed paper and instead decided that all material would be online in the form of a blog. Would all the current journalists cease to be journalists because their words were now published on a blog?

Second it strikes me that the intent of the laws are meant to protect the source. The journalist gains protection so as to be able to protect their source. Why should it matter that a person needs to meet certain criteria in order to be able to protect sources and ultimately a free press and free speech?

I assume the criteria is in place so you can&#039;t fall back on an anonymous source to publish a fabrication. 

Bloggers come in many forms. Some are journalists and some aren&#039;t. What I&#039;m having a hard time seeing is why a blogger can&#039;t meet the requirements to grant the protection. Not all would, but are any of the requirements granting protection tied to the media in which a story is published?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of thoughts came to mind while reading this.</p>
<p>First what&#8217;s the definition of a journalist? What are the criteria that need to be met in order for a journalist to be granted protection from having to reveal a source? Is there anything in those criteria that require the published material to be in print as opposed to online?</p>
<p>If tomorrow the New York Times decided to stop publishing a printed paper and instead decided that all material would be online in the form of a blog. Would all the current journalists cease to be journalists because their words were now published on a blog?</p>
<p>Second it strikes me that the intent of the laws are meant to protect the source. The journalist gains protection so as to be able to protect their source. Why should it matter that a person needs to meet certain criteria in order to be able to protect sources and ultimately a free press and free speech?</p>
<p>I assume the criteria is in place so you can&#8217;t fall back on an anonymous source to publish a fabrication. </p>
<p>Bloggers come in many forms. Some are journalists and some aren&#8217;t. What I&#8217;m having a hard time seeing is why a blogger can&#8217;t meet the requirements to grant the protection. Not all would, but are any of the requirements granting protection tied to the media in which a story is published?</p>
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		<title>By: Music Software</title>
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		<dc:creator>Music Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloggers seem to be doing well without such a shield so far!  In fact, blogging may take different shapes if this passes into law.  Moreover, the implications for non American bloggers will be the same as it stands now for quite some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloggers seem to be doing well without such a shield so far!  In fact, blogging may take different shapes if this passes into law.  Moreover, the implications for non American bloggers will be the same as it stands now for quite some time.</p>
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