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	<title>Comments on: The Blog Council: a How NOT to Corporate Blog Guide</title>
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		<title>By: Kelly Feller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Feller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you&#039;re missing what the blog council is trying to do. I&#039;m not personally a member, but I do work for a large corporation managing blogs and social media efforts. There are unique problems corporations face when trying to implement conversational marketing programs including blogging. Shouldn&#039;t people who face these unique challenges be permitted to develop their own community of peers to help address these issues?

I don&#039;t know all the policies of the Council; as I mentioned, I&#039;m not a member. But I can tell you I often return home black and blue from the beating I get both internally, for trying to get my corp peers to do social media the &quot;right&quot; way, and externally from a outspoken community of purists who think there is no place for corporate presence within social media.

&lt;em&gt;Kelly Feller&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.conversationsmatter.org/2008/05/30/video-jeremiah-owyang-presenting-forresters-post-method-at-cluetrain-conference/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Video: Jeremiah Owyang presenting Forrester&#039;s POST Method at Cluetrain conference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you&#8217;re missing what the blog council is trying to do. I&#8217;m not personally a member, but I do work for a large corporation managing blogs and social media efforts. There are unique problems corporations face when trying to implement conversational marketing programs including blogging. Shouldn&#8217;t people who face these unique challenges be permitted to develop their own community of peers to help address these issues?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know all the policies of the Council; as I mentioned, I&#8217;m not a member. But I can tell you I often return home black and blue from the beating I get both internally, for trying to get my corp peers to do social media the &#8220;right&#8221; way, and externally from a outspoken community of purists who think there is no place for corporate presence within social media.</p>
<p><em>Kelly Feller&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.conversationsmatter.org/2008/05/30/video-jeremiah-owyang-presenting-forresters-post-method-at-cluetrain-conference/' rel="nofollow">Video: Jeremiah Owyang presenting Forrester&#8217;s POST Method at Cluetrain conference</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Make Money Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big business fails to understand blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Money Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big business fails to understand blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   And it&#8217;s not just me who think The Blog Council have got this wrong. Take a look at The Marketing Pilgrim&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   And it&#8217;s not just me who think The Blog Council have got this wrong. Take a look at The Marketing Pilgrim&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we can each choose whether to believe their story or not, Paul. I usually try to take people at their word, so I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. If I am wrong about them, I am sure they&#039;ll give us more evidence to help us decide one way or the other. So, I am keeping my mind open (some would say it&#039;s cavernous in its emptiness).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we can each choose whether to believe their story or not, Paul. I usually try to take people at their word, so I am giving them the benefit of the doubt. If I am wrong about them, I am sure they&#8217;ll give us more evidence to help us decide one way or the other. So, I am keeping my mind open (some would say it&#8217;s cavernous in its emptiness).</p>
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		<title>By: Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Upon refelction: was I too hard on The Blog Council?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scholars and Rogues &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Upon refelction: was I too hard on The Blog Council?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] guy who knows a thing or two about blogging - explains why he&#8217;s skeptical. Jordan McCollum goes door-to-door on some of the group&#8217;s players. Mike Moran prays that it&#8217;s all just a big mistake. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] guy who knows a thing or two about blogging &#8211; explains why he&#8217;s skeptical. Jordan McCollum goes door-to-door on some of the group&#8217;s players. Mike Moran prays that it&#8217;s all just a big mistake. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but Mike, isn&#039;t that a bit disingenuous? A &quot;blog&quot; council with no blog? I suspect I judge both too quickly and harshly. *Note to self: Give them time Paul. Give them time.*

Also, I spoke to one of the members yesterday who indicated they have no desire to become a regulatory body for the blogosphere, as some have asserted. They all have day jobs, he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but Mike, isn&#8217;t that a bit disingenuous? A &#8220;blog&#8221; council with no blog? I suspect I judge both too quickly and harshly. *Note to self: Give them time Paul. Give them time.*</p>
<p>Also, I spoke to one of the members yesterday who indicated they have no desire to become a regulatory body for the blogosphere, as some have asserted. They all have day jobs, he said.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke with Andy Sernovitz yesterday of the Blog Council and the disabling of comments was apparently a mistake. They were trying to use blogging software as a simple content management system and they&#039;ve now updated the site so it looks like a flat Web site, not a blog. I updated my post about the Blog Council from Monday (http://www.mikemoran.com/biznology/archives/2007/12/oneway_blogging.html) to reflect this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke with Andy Sernovitz yesterday of the Blog Council and the disabling of comments was apparently a mistake. They were trying to use blogging software as a simple content management system and they&#8217;ve now updated the site so it looks like a flat Web site, not a blog. I updated my post about the Blog Council from Monday (http://www.mikemoran.com/biznology/archives/2007/12/oneway_blogging.h tml) to reflect this.</p>
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		<title>By: Caged Ether &#187; The Blog Council exposed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caged Ether &#187; The Blog Council exposed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Blogs Not the Place for a One-Way Message &#124; Shaun Low</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogs Not the Place for a One-Way Message &#124; Shaun Low</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McCollum from Marketing Pilgrim had a great post Friday called &#8220;a How Not to Corporate Blog Guide,&#8221; which justifiably rips into the Blog Council for its strange way of advising companies to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McCollum from Marketing Pilgrim had a great post Friday called &#8220;a How Not to Corporate Blog Guide,&#8221; which justifiably rips into the Blog Council for its strange way of advising companies to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I definitely don&#039;t think they want to be a regulatory body.  They do say that their goal is to establish best practices for corporate blogging.  And whenever they get around to posting their third post, I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll learn more about that goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I definitely don&#8217;t think they want to be a regulatory body.  They do say that their goal is to establish best practices for corporate blogging.  And whenever they get around to posting their third post, I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll learn more about that goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They might wish to set themselves up as a regulatory body, though ostensibly, only where large corporate entities are concerned. 

Of course, the notion that any one group could &quot;regulate&quot; bloggers is laughable, tantamount to herding millions of cats.  

If they come up with some &quot;best practices&quot; that can be emulated (I&#039;ll never say &#039;should&#039;), that would be good. Otherwise, I don&#039;t see that their reach would be as overarching as to presuppose they could morph into a regulatory body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They might wish to set themselves up as a regulatory body, though ostensibly, only where large corporate entities are concerned. </p>
<p>Of course, the notion that any one group could &#8220;regulate&#8221; bloggers is laughable, tantamount to herding millions of cats.  </p>
<p>If they come up with some &#8220;best practices&#8221; that can be emulated (I&#8217;ll never say &#8216;should&#8217;), that would be good. Otherwise, I don&#8217;t see that their reach would be as overarching as to presuppose they could morph into a regulatory body.</p>
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		<title>By: Zen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t the people elect the members of any council? To auto proclaim oneself a &quot;Blog Council&quot; seems kind of arrogant, at least in my perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the people elect the members of any council? To auto proclaim oneself a &#8220;Blog Council&#8221; seems kind of arrogant, at least in my perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the corporate world still sees blogs as a direct sales tool or an extension of a press release. They haven&#039;t caught on to the idea of blogging as a conversation or a way to become more transparent to their customers.

I&#039;m not sure if a council made up of corporations is the best way for them to understand the conversational nature of blogging, but time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the corporate world still sees blogs as a direct sales tool or an extension of a press release. They haven&#8217;t caught on to the idea of blogging as a conversation or a way to become more transparent to their customers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if a council made up of corporations is the best way for them to understand the conversational nature of blogging, but time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Furniture Store</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furniture Store</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people in the blogging community are extremely indignant about this Blog council which they fear will be a regulatory body who will set itself up to police the blogosphere in a way. 

The take of a lot of bloggers is &quot;who asked you&quot; and &quot;who are you anyway?&quot; 

And as you say &quot;comments are disabled on the Blog Council blog.&quot;, doesnt sound as though they want anyone else&#039;s opinions does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people in the blogging community are extremely indignant about this Blog council which they fear will be a regulatory body who will set itself up to police the blogosphere in a way. </p>
<p>The take of a lot of bloggers is &#8220;who asked you&#8221; and &#8220;who are you anyway?&#8221; </p>
<p>And as you say &#8220;comments are disabled on the Blog Council blog.&#8221;, doesnt sound as though they want anyone else&#8217;s opinions does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think you should go on. Microsoft is a member, as is Dell, and those two companies certainly have a better track record. 

It should not go un-noted that Microsoft was the company that gave rise to Robert Scoble, Channel 9, and over 5,000 employee bloggers, all the while touting their blog policy was simply, &quot;Blog smart.&quot; 

While Dell had to learn the lesson the hard way, I&#039;d suggest they&#039;ve made a pretty good showing of how to engage customers in conversation with their Direct2Dell blog and IdeaStorm community. 

Maybe these two companies are there to mentor the others who aren&#039;t faring so well. 

While I have no feeling for or against the Blog Council, I think the jury is still out on its efficacy. 

It is my hope what&#039;s learned behind closed doors will be shared with the business blogosphere at large. That is certainly a blogging &quot;best practice&quot; if ever there was one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think you should go on. Microsoft is a member, as is Dell, and those two companies certainly have a better track record. </p>
<p>It should not go un-noted that Microsoft was the company that gave rise to Robert Scoble, Channel 9, and over 5,000 employee bloggers, all the while touting their blog policy was simply, &#8220;Blog smart.&#8221; </p>
<p>While Dell had to learn the lesson the hard way, I&#8217;d suggest they&#8217;ve made a pretty good showing of how to engage customers in conversation with their Direct2Dell blog and IdeaStorm community. </p>
<p>Maybe these two companies are there to mentor the others who aren&#8217;t faring so well. </p>
<p>While I have no feeling for or against the Blog Council, I think the jury is still out on its efficacy. </p>
<p>It is my hope what&#8217;s learned behind closed doors will be shared with the business blogosphere at large. That is certainly a blogging &#8220;best practice&#8221; if ever there was one.</p>
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		<title>By: MG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helpful article, tnx!</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blogging: There&#8217;s No One Right Way Blog Marketing Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Blogging: There&#8217;s No One Right Way Blog Marketing Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marketing Pilgrim blogged about an organization calling itself Blog Council. The Pilgrim is dead on regarding its interpretation of the Council. They don&#8217;t seem to be too qualified to what they say they&#8217;re going to do. Here&#8217;s a sample of their own blogging philosophy: &#8220;Major corporations use blogs differently while abiding by the same rules and etiquette,&#8221; said Blog Council CEO Andy Sernovitz. &#8220;Individual and small-business bloggers don&#8217;t face the same issues. For example, we still need to deliver a responsible and effective corporate message, but we need to do it in the complicated environment of the blogosphere. We have to speak for a corporation, but never sound &#8216;corporate.&#8217; And we have to learn to do it live, and in real-time.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marketing Pilgrim blogged about an organization calling itself Blog Council. The Pilgrim is dead on regarding its interpretation of the Council. They don&#8217;t seem to be too qualified to what they say they&#8217;re going to do. Here&#8217;s a sample of their own blogging philosophy: &#8220;Major corporations use blogs differently while abiding by the same rules and etiquette,&#8221; said Blog Council CEO Andy Sernovitz. &#8220;Individual and small-business bloggers don&#8217;t face the same issues. For example, we still need to deliver a responsible and effective corporate message, but we need to do it in the complicated environment of the blogosphere. We have to speak for a corporation, but never sound &#8216;corporate.&#8217; And we have to learn to do it live, and in real-time.&#8221; [...]</p>
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