Comments on: Digg Causes ED Among Social Marketers; Will it Now Go Limp Itself?

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Quantifying Digg Popularity | Social Media Explorer — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:01:05 +0000

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By: supaswag

supaswag — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:03:53 +0000

The shocking reality: What REALLY goes on behind the curtains at digg.com >> http://supaswag.blogspot.com/2008/02/can-you-digg-it.html

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By: Earn Money Online On The Internet At Home

Earn Money Online On The Internet At Home — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:17:47 +0000

I think that optimizers help them improve their results. Without the constant abuse by thousands of optimizers we most likely wouldn’t get as good of results from Google or any search engine.

By: Tony Adam: SEO Expert and Web Standards Evangelist » Digg Revolt: Digg’s dependancy on its users nears addiction

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:27:04 +0000

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By: Daan Jansonius

Daan Jansonius — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:26:29 +0000

Yeah, fair point Andy. Obviously it would be beneficial if you could marketers on your side, they are usually early adopters and very good at spreading the message (or should be at least!).

If it’s a straight choice between marketer and user it has to be the user every time though. Without a user there is nobody to market to for the marketers.

By: Jayson

Jayson — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:15:53 +0000

Thanks Andy – that puts that rumor to rest. Think I first stumbled across it on a forum.

By: Andy Beal

Andy Beal — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:07:54 +0000

@Daan – I agree with you, Digg should be for the people. That said, the marketers are the ones that help spread the word about the importance of Digg–so the people can learn about it.

@Jayson – not heard anything about that. Digg has a partnership with MSFT – they just dumped Google – so MSFT appears to be a more likely partner.

By: Jayson

Jayson — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:28:57 +0000

I’m just worried that by making marketers jobs harder I’m going to miss out on some great information or entertainment.

Andy have you heard rumors about Google using Digg in their search results (similar to Yahoo and Delicious) this might be one reason why Digg is moving towards less spam.

By: Daan Jansonius

Daan Jansonius — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:23:23 +0000

Maybe I’m way off base on this (I’ve only been researching the social media game for a little while) but at the end of the day this site is for the people, not the marketers trying to make a buck.

If this decision is made because the owners feel its for the best of its user base than so be it. Rather than complain they have made your job a little bit harder, applaud them in their effort to deliver a better service.

Again, maybe I’m completely wrong but it just seems like some people complain because their job got harder.

By: Digg Revolt

Digg Revolt — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:53:06 +0000

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By: Jayson

Jayson — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:50:05 +0000

I think Digg can (maybe barely) survive without optimizers but their popularity and traffic will definitely suffer.

There’s no extra incentive to use them now – most of their optimizer traffic will move onto a competing site and start talking about the competitor. Plus, a lot of good information and entertainment is created and put out by optimizers and without that extra incentive optimizers are going to look past Digg and promote their material elsewhere.

As far as Google, I think that optimizers help them improve their results. Without the constant abuse by thousands of optimizers we most likely wouldn’t get as good of results from Google or any search engine. There wouldn’t be as much abuse and there would be a lot less reported…bad results might stay unnoticed.

By: Brent

Brent — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:20:33 +0000

Andy,

I guess we will see sites like Subvert & Profit really take off. It looks as if Digg would be pushing “marketers” to buy votes to get that diversity they need.

By: Michael Lodispoto

Michael Lodispoto — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:14:39 +0000

I think Digg started off by being a people’s social news media outlet. Marketers saw the benefits almost instantly and they helped propel it to where it is but they are not solely responsible as we all know. Kevin has a great site. Granted they have problems but nothing that can’t be fixed. Digg is still being gamed successfully, but the powers that be in social media now have it slightly harder. That upsets many as you know. Everyone wants everthing as easy as possible, but gone are the days when with just a small group of say 20 or so people you can get that Digg effect and land on page one.
The ‘Diversity’ of votes that Digg is after can be gamed and right now it is already being gamed by people we both and everyone knows.
Digg will adjust further their algo but again you will see the same people get pissed off ( sometimes understandably) since it does affect their bottom line.
Digg changing things is akin to Google changing their pagerank computations. Some will be upset, others will cheer depending on who has the easiest time gaming. Life is funny I think.

By: Brian Chappell

Brian Chappell — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:11:57 +0000

I think we all knew something was up. They are digging there own grave with this one.