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		<title>By: Enrico S.</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/02/free-advertising-or-trademark-infringement.html/comment-page-1#comment-62245</link>
		<dc:creator>Enrico S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys.  Domain names are protected under law by the Anti-Cybersquatting law.  Use of a domain name incorporating someone else&#039;s trademark is not going to qualify as fair use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys.  Domain names are protected under law by the Anti-Cybersquatting law.  Use of a domain name incorporating someone else&#8217;s trademark is not going to qualify as fair use.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Eaton</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/02/free-advertising-or-trademark-infringement.html/comment-page-1#comment-62120</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Eaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know how &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.secureyourtrademark.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trademarking&lt;/a&gt; works?  I would like to file a trademark with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;USPTO&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know how <a href="http://www.secureyourtrademark.com" rel="nofollow">trademarking</a> works?  I would like to file a trademark with the <a href="http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm" rel="nofollow">USPTO</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because of such news, we decided to enroll into Google&#039;s Adsense than Amazon&#039;s affiliate program for our website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because of such news, we decided to enroll into Google&#8217;s Adsense than Amazon&#8217;s affiliate program for our website.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if it is legal to use a competitors trademarked name in a domain name as long as it is differentiated from a competitors site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if it is legal to use a competitors trademarked name in a domain name as long as it is differentiated from a competitors site?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Montague</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/02/free-advertising-or-trademark-infringement.html/comment-page-1#comment-42017</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Montague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless he gets a cease and desist from Amazon, I wouldn&#039;t touch a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless he gets a cease and desist from Amazon, I wouldn&#8217;t touch a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: shakira</title>
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		<dc:creator>shakira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alexis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can resuse trademarked names on websites as long as you don&#039;t use it to directly sell your competing product, and you refernce the owner of the mark.  I do it a lot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can resuse trademarked names on websites as long as you don&#8217;t use it to directly sell your competing product, and you refernce the owner of the mark.  I do it a lot!</p>
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		<title>By: Google news - it is all about info &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free Advertising or Trademark Infringement?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google news - it is all about info &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free Advertising or Trademark Infringement?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew Bowers, Product Manager wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptI&#8217;ve always thought it ironic that if you use a trademark in a movie or other medium, the owners would sue the pants off of you&#8212;but if you approach them in advance to sell &#8220;product placement,&#8221; they&#8217;ll pay you to put it in there. Jason Schramm, who runs Jason Blogs and (and wants to rank #1 for his surname ), may have this irony shoved down his throat. Another website of his, Kindle Report, is a website devoted to news about the Amazon.com-owned ebook reader, the Kindle. Kindle Reports was also an Amazon affiliate. Which is how the site came to Amazon&#8217;s attention. Yesterday, Amazon emailed Jason to demand the trademark-containing domain: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Andrew Bowers, Product Manager wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptI&#8217;ve always thought it ironic that if you use a trademark in a movie or other medium, the owners would sue the pants off of you&mdash;but if you approach them in advance to sell &#8220;product placement,&#8221; they&#8217;ll pay you to put it in there. Jason Schramm, who runs Jason Blogs and (and wants to rank #1 for his surname ), may have this irony shoved down his throat. Another website of his, Kindle Report, is a website devoted to news about the Amazon.com-owned ebook reader, the Kindle. Kindle Reports was also an Amazon affiliate. Which is how the site came to Amazon&#8217;s attention. Yesterday, Amazon emailed Jason to demand the trademark-containing domain: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think it&#039;s pretty clear that he was absolutely NOT trying to divert traffic from Amazon.  If so, he&#039;s doing a pretty crappy job.  Furthermore, if the product doesn&#039;t make sales and news, he loses the purpose behind his site.  Let us remember that the reason his site operated was to promote the reader and books available for download, all of which were almost exclusively available from Amazon in the first place.  The cybersquatting and trademark laws simply don&#039;t fit the case.

However, as mentioned, Amazon should have never allowed the site to become an affiliate.  The first article of the agreement says that domains with their trademarks can&#039;t participate.  It doesn&#039;t say that if for some reason affiliates operating domains with their trademarks pass their obviously deficient application review, applicants or affiliates will be forced to surrender their domains.  I wouldn&#039;t argue against their denying his application in the first place or discontinuing their agreement now.

Finally, the ACPA includes an exception to bad faith which is pretty broadly worded: that if the defendant even &lt;Em&gt;thinks&lt;/em&gt; their use is fair use, it can&#039;t be bad faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think it&#8217;s pretty clear that he was absolutely NOT trying to divert traffic from Amazon.  If so, he&#8217;s doing a pretty crappy job.  Furthermore, if the product doesn&#8217;t make sales and news, he loses the purpose behind his site.  Let us remember that the reason his site operated was to promote the reader and books available for download, all of which were almost exclusively available from Amazon in the first place.  The cybersquatting and trademark laws simply don&#8217;t fit the case.</p>
<p>However, as mentioned, Amazon should have never allowed the site to become an affiliate.  The first article of the agreement says that domains with their trademarks can&#8217;t participate.  It doesn&#8217;t say that if for some reason affiliates operating domains with their trademarks pass their obviously deficient application review, applicants or affiliates will be forced to surrender their domains.  I wouldn&#8217;t argue against their denying his application in the first place or discontinuing their agreement now.</p>
<p>Finally, the ACPA includes an exception to bad faith which is pretty broadly worded: that if the defendant even <em>thinks</em> their use is fair use, it can&#8217;t be bad faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Enrico Schaefer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enrico Schaefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry folks.  This is black-letter law cybersquatting.  You CAN NOT register domains using third-party trademarks.

&quot;He’s not trying to dilute their brand power or market power; he’s reporting about their product.&quot;

You automatically dilute someone&#039;s brand by registering their marks as a domain. And he is/was trying to profit by increasing his affiliate revenue / andd now is obtaining Google adword revenue. 

&quot;He’s not selling anything, so he obviously doesn’t meet the requirement that he’s acting in bad faith to profit from the mark.&quot;  Diverting traffic is also proof of bad faith.  Clearly, he is trying to divert traffic. 

What if every affiliate of Amazon could register domains using their trademarks on the basis of fair use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry folks.  This is black-letter law cybersquatting.  You CAN NOT register domains using third-party trademarks.</p>
<p>&#8220;He’s not trying to dilute their brand power or market power; he’s reporting about their product.&#8221;</p>
<p>You automatically dilute someone&#8217;s brand by registering their marks as a domain. And he is/was trying to profit by increasing his affiliate revenue / andd now is obtaining Google adword revenue. </p>
<p>&#8220;He’s not selling anything, so he obviously doesn’t meet the requirement that he’s acting in bad faith to profit from the mark.&#8221;  Diverting traffic is also proof of bad faith.  Clearly, he is trying to divert traffic. </p>
<p>What if every affiliate of Amazon could register domains using their trademarks on the basis of fair use?</p>
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		<title>By: Hock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon has every right to block his activities if he accepted the agreement when he signed on as an Amazon Associate. Companies should be able to protect their trademarks and how they are used. 

The whole idea behind setting up that site is probably to capture commissions from any sales of the Kindle (or anything from Amazon for that matter) and to capitalize on the buzz generated from the Kindle. 

Having the word &quot;Kindle&quot; in the domain name is a well-known SEO technique. Without being able to promote Amazon links, the Kindle Report can try other means of monetization... that is, until Amazon forces him to give up the domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon has every right to block his activities if he accepted the agreement when he signed on as an Amazon Associate. Companies should be able to protect their trademarks and how they are used. </p>
<p>The whole idea behind setting up that site is probably to capture commissions from any sales of the Kindle (or anything from Amazon for that matter) and to capitalize on the buzz generated from the Kindle. </p>
<p>Having the word &#8220;Kindle&#8221; in the domain name is a well-known SEO technique. Without being able to promote Amazon links, the Kindle Report can try other means of monetization&#8230; that is, until Amazon forces him to give up the domain.</p>
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		<title>By: GoWFB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoWFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they sould look upon it as free advertising and be thankful.</description>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/02/free-advertising-or-trademark-infringement.html/comment-page-1#comment-41196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure we&#039;re all understanding one another here.  He&#039;s not trying to dilute their brand power or market power; he&#039;s reporting about &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; product.  He&#039;s not selling anything, so he obviously doesn&#039;t meet the requirement that he&#039;s acting in bad faith to profit from the mark.  

As a reminder, trademark law allows a nonowner of a trademark to use the mark to refer to the actual trademarked product or its source. In addition to protecting product criticism and analysis, United States law actually encourages nominative usage by competitors in the form of comparative advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;re all understanding one another here.  He&#8217;s not trying to dilute their brand power or market power; he&#8217;s reporting about <em>their</em> product.  He&#8217;s not selling anything, so he obviously doesn&#8217;t meet the requirement that he&#8217;s acting in bad faith to profit from the mark.  </p>
<p>As a reminder, trademark law allows a nonowner of a trademark to use the mark to refer to the actual trademarked product or its source. In addition to protecting product criticism and analysis, United States law actually encourages nominative usage by competitors in the form of comparative advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Living on Adsense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Living on Adsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could side with both parties in this situation.

Due to a past situation that I had to deal with I would have to side with Amazon.  It is extremely important to protect your brand.  A few years ago I created a product that was sold online and shortly thereafter purchased a domain name that similar to mine.  It turns out this person was also much better a SEO than myself, and his domain ranked much better than mine.  His site absolutely destroyed my brand and led to many other copycat sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could side with both parties in this situation.</p>
<p>Due to a past situation that I had to deal with I would have to side with Amazon.  It is extremely important to protect your brand.  A few years ago I created a product that was sold online and shortly thereafter purchased a domain name that similar to mine.  It turns out this person was also much better a SEO than myself, and his domain ranked much better than mine.  His site absolutely destroyed my brand and led to many other copycat sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Futon-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Futon-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really tough issue.  I can see both side of the argument.</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the whole point of trademarks is to be able to control the use of your mark in the industry, so it not only makes sense for Amazon to go after domain registrations that infringe, but it&#039;s actually *required* to do so by trademark law. I&#039;ve received these sort of letters in the past from companies like Southwestern Bell and, more recently, Porsche.

Sounds to me that while Jason is doing a service that Amazon should appreciate, he&#039;s doing it in a way that is inconsistent with patent law and it&#039;s quite reasonable for Amazon to ask him to stop. 

It&#039;s not &quot;bullying&quot; as much as that might make for a good headline. It&#039;s defending the company trademark and if you check out uspto.gov you&#039;ll find that Amazon could *lose* its trademark if it doesn&#039;t &quot;actively defend&quot; its use in the marketplace.

Finally, one more observation, based on my own experience with these situations: the legal team that goes after possible trademark infringements has no communication with and is probably physically quite distant from the marketing department, and doubly so at a company like Amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the whole point of trademarks is to be able to control the use of your mark in the industry, so it not only makes sense for Amazon to go after domain registrations that infringe, but it&#8217;s actually *required* to do so by trademark law. I&#8217;ve received these sort of letters in the past from companies like Southwestern Bell and, more recently, Porsche.</p>
<p>Sounds to me that while Jason is doing a service that Amazon should appreciate, he&#8217;s doing it in a way that is inconsistent with patent law and it&#8217;s quite reasonable for Amazon to ask him to stop. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;bullying&#8221; as much as that might make for a good headline. It&#8217;s defending the company trademark and if you check out uspto.gov you&#8217;ll find that Amazon could *lose* its trademark if it doesn&#8217;t &#8220;actively defend&#8221; its use in the marketplace.</p>
<p>Finally, one more observation, based on my own experience with these situations: the legal team that goes after possible trademark infringements has no communication with and is probably physically quite distant from the marketing department, and doubly so at a company like Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, I think that this is a legitimate use of the trademark.  There are lots of fair use exceptions to trademark law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, I think that this is a legitimate use of the trademark.  There are lots of fair use exceptions to trademark law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I see where Amazon is coming from with this, because they do own the trademark, it&#039;s crappy that big companies have to bully little guys out of domain names because of it.

Myspace is doing the same thing, and it seems to be their way of protecting their brand... It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when large companies with huge revenue have to go after small fish and force them to take their sites down... but I guess in an online world where people abuse trademarks, the companies have to protect what is rightfully theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I see where Amazon is coming from with this, because they do own the trademark, it&#8217;s crappy that big companies have to bully little guys out of domain names because of it.</p>
<p>Myspace is doing the same thing, and it seems to be their way of protecting their brand&#8230; It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth when large companies with huge revenue have to go after small fish and force them to take their sites down&#8230; but I guess in an online world where people abuse trademarks, the companies have to protect what is rightfully theirs.</p>
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