Posted February 11, 2008 11:01 am by with 19 comments

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Abbie Hoffman he isn’t, but eBay user “class-it” seems to have had enough of overly seller friendly policies at eBay. In class-it’s recent auction for a “SONY VAIO VGN-NR21J/S LAPTOP BNIB” he listed an extensive collection of methods you can use to steal the laptop from the seller.

With this humorous jab, class-it has compiled a fairly good summary of the perils of selling items on eBay. I’ve quoted most of the section covering the nefarious techniques as I’m sure this auction will have a very short lifespan…


PAYPAL: Paypal is currently ebays preferred method of stealing high value electrical items off sellers. There are a number of various ways you can use to steal this laptop using paypal.
1: A Fake “Item Not Received” (I.N.R) Claim – All you simply have to do here is purchase my item using an unverified paypal account. Then when you receive the laptop, simply claim that you didn’t receive it at your registered (credit card) and paypal will give you all your money back !
2: A Fake “Item Significantly Not As Described” (S.N.A.D) This is a great way to steal items off sellers. Simply start a dispute after you get the laptop making up some lie about the item being damaged etc – You could use Photoshop to make up fake pictures of damage. Paypal will ask you to send the item back to me, but don’t bother – they never enforce that on buyers and after a short wait you will get all your money back and you will still have the laptop.
3: A fake “Unauthorised Use” Claim – This is a super way of stealing items on ebay and is widely used. Simply claim that someone hijacked your account (paypal & ebay) and that you didn’t order the laptop. Then in conjunction with a fake I.N.R claim you can simply steal the laptop and of course, get your money back.
4: A Stolen Credit card – Of course, ebay make no real attempt to vet any of its buyers, so hey, just register a new ebay account using fake ID information and link it to a paypal account set up with a stolen credit card – and hey presto – A free laptop.

Although officially banned on ebay, fake western union payments are the preferred way for Nigerian Scammers to steal high value electrical items. Simply email me (using pigeon English) telling me that you would like to buy this item using Western Union – Tell me that you would be happy to pay over the odds for the laptop and that it is a present for your mother in law. Then send me a fake western union payment notification and I send you the laptop – Perfect. This method of stealing items off sellers is very widely used on ebay and of course, as ebay do not properly verify buyers its easy to do. Make sure you use Pigeon English as I am really really stupid and it’s bound to fool me.

If you are a traditionalist like me you may prefer a good old mugging. Simply offer to meet me on some dodgy housing estate somewhere and have a load of you mates hiding behind a hedge with a few iron bars. Again, offer to pay me over the odds as there is nothing better than using a sellers greed to bait them into a scam. I would be grateful if you could avoid killing me as this will cause bad publicity for ebay which would be terrible.

In the unlikely event that you are actually a genuine buyer then you really should be shopping in a real shop and not this scammers paradise. However this laptop does really exist and is really for sale. You can email me or skype me with suggestions on how we may actually transact this item to both our satisfaction – with both our safety in mind. Don’t even think of buying it using paypal. I’ve only listed it as accepted because ebay run a protection racket that means I have to accept it. If you do pay by paypal I will simply refund your payment and give you a nice new shiny NEG.

Of course you will no doubt be aware that from May onwards you will be able to blackmail sellers into giving you free P&P / discounts etc. You will be able to give them neg feedback and they will not be able to give you any.. I regret to advise you that because this rule does not come in until May this option of scamming me is not open to you yet.

I would grateful if some sad failed traffic warden could report this auction for two reasons
1: Ebay will see this listing and will hopefully close my account, saving me a 180 days wait to do it myself.
2: You will save me listing fees, making this a free advert.

Even if you’re not an eBay seller, fraud proofing your payment methods is an eternal struggle. These challenges can get even more pronounced as you start to branch into foreign markets with unfamiliar payment methods.

Before you get burned, I would suggest doing a beta of new payment methods and checking very closely for fraud. New payment methods can add great value to your offering; however, if fraud runs rampant it can quickly eat up the profits realized by accepting new forms of payment.

  • LOL, funny stuff. I wonder if anyone is selling the Macbook Air on eBay yet…I could use one of those. 😉

  • Great. Very interesting article. Let’s stole Yacht:)

  • The was awesome, thanks for sharing. 🙂

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  • Feedback blackmail has always been the worst one :/

  • Wow! All of these things to guard against?! I dont think i want to sell anything on ebay.

  • I run a web site dedicated to scams and the ebay section is huge, there are simply way too many scams (I count 17 at the moment) on ebay and something really needs to be done; but while ebay have no vialbe competition and still collect their fees I cannot see it happening.

  • Zen

    Very funny indeed! hahaha 😀

  • techslinger



    Buy using PayPal. Then, after you have received the item, file a claim with PayPal and use these magic words: ”NOT AS DESCRIBED.” PayPal will immediately HOLD the money in the seller’s account–just for you. Next, send back an empty box, for proof of return of course. After that’s done, PayPal will instantly give the buyer their money back, every time. My friends and I have claimed thousands of dollars in free stuff off eBay this way.

    Also, ”NOT AS DESCRIBED” works in cases of buyer’s remorse. It doesn’t matter if the item is described accurately, or even if the seller has a “no return” policy. PayPal is so stupid; they will refund your money back again, and again, and again. You won’t believe how easy it is. Thank you PayPal, you are a pal.

    This is not a joke. If you don’t believe me, try it one time, you’ll see.

    • Riku Khan

      what happens if seller didn’t accept the return 🙂 and reject courier.

  • Mr. Kroy

    An investigation currently underway indicates that an individual is carrying out libellous activities on this site. These activities include postings that are meant to impersonate an ecommerce in an effort to slander this enterprise.
    This individual (initials K.W.) is flirting with a lawsuit and a total ban from Ebay. This individual is urged to cease these activities immediately. This site is also hereby urged in the strongest terms to remove any postings made from the same source as the posting above and using the user ID of “techslinger”.
    Thank you for your cooperation.

  • techslinger

    Libelous for what Mr. Kroy, whose real initials are (C.E.) of Quebec. I don’t belong to ebay. Are you one of those miscreants stealing from ebay honest and hard working sellers.

    Are ya? Admit it. You are. You have the scruples of a barracuda. You are a cold-hearted snake if you steal from honest sellers on ebay Mr. Kroy.

    Didn’t your mama tell you it’s not right to STEAL.

  • techslinger

    Also, K.W. stands for Kroy Whitaker of Montreal. Is that you too?

    Please do not steal from ebay’s sellers Mr. Kroy Whitaker (C.E.).

  • bill

    how can a buyer say he didnt receive an item if the seller requires signature delivery? Your article doesnt make sense. I have over 1000 sales on ebay all with positive feedback and have never encountered nor heard of any of this jibberish.

  • A signed delivery note via Australia post (our national mail carrier) is currently not accepted; only signatures via courier companies are accepted. Note that that the courier companies do not verify who you are so you can simply put a false signature.

    I have over 5,000 sales on ebay and have seen a lot of scams – I even fell for the ‘powersellers’ scam.
    If you are lucky enough to not encounter any of this ‘jibberish’ then consider yourself lucky.

  • Max

    Great article. I used to sell on Ebay – not anymore. Between revolving Ebay rules, thieves and just flat out stupid folks I bailed.

  • Max

    Sad but so true :/

  • Funny article, e-bay is so full of problems for sellers, and working with paypal, i don’t see the advantage of selling there when almost everyone can rip you off and walk away with paypal agreement :/

  • always signed postage no matter the value, also note all serial or number on the item and take lots of photos upload to tiny pic or your fb pb cloud cover yourself it’s easy to be claimed when you don’t cover yourself