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	<title>Comments on: Google Site Search Controversy a Storm in a Teacup</title>
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		<title>By: Make money WITH your blog Tutorial - Take Over Google Part 1 From Personal Edge Insights - Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make money WITH your blog Tutorial - Take Over Google Part 1 From Personal Edge Insights - Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And you can simply explain to the peons who work there that while of COURSE Google should NEVER EVER give one site an added boost against another, performance reviews ARE coming up and oh by the way, here&#8217;s your [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And you can simply explain to the peons who work there that while of COURSE Google should NEVER EVER give one site an added boost against another, performance reviews ARE coming up and oh by the way, here&#8217;s your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mobile guy - really?! 

Google does something that is, in many ways, stepping on the toes of publishers &amp; retailers in the name of &#039;user interests&#039; (did anyone ask the user?) and which also, in the UK at least, goes against its own T&amp;Cs. 

Are people not meant to report this because it might hurt Google&#039;s share price? Since when was that the NYT&#039;s, or anyone else&#039;s other than Google&#039;s, problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mobile guy &#8211; really?! </p>
<p>Google does something that is, in many ways, stepping on the toes of publishers &amp; retailers in the name of &#8216;user interests&#8217; (did anyone ask the user?) and which also, in the UK at least, goes against its own T&amp;Cs. </p>
<p>Are people not meant to report this because it might hurt Google&#8217;s share price? Since when was that the NYT&#8217;s, or anyone else&#8217;s other than Google&#8217;s, problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mobile guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think somebody is trying to play with GOOG stocks publishing such articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think somebody is trying to play with GOOG stocks publishing such articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Kingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly it, Rishil. 

If Google offered to display Site Search results without ads for customers of the Enterprise CSE, I bet that would certainly pay off the $100+/year cost, in terms of how much more attention they get from visitors in SERPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly it, Rishil. </p>
<p>If Google offered to display Site Search results without ads for customers of the Enterprise CSE, I bet that would certainly pay off the $100+/year cost, in terms of how much more attention they get from visitors in SERPs.</p>
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		<title>By: rishil</title>
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		<dc:creator>rishil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Robert : Will Google show Ad-free Site Search to businesses that pay for the privilege?

I am assuming you are referring to using google search on your own site? 

There is an enterprise version you can use - http://www.google.com/coop/cse/compare - which is actually their CSE meant to be used on multiple sites - but its ad free which means you can use it to search your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robert : Will Google show Ad-free Site Search to businesses that pay for the privilege?</p>
<p>I am assuming you are referring to using google search on your own site? </p>
<p>There is an enterprise version you can use &#8211; http://www.google.com/coop/cse/compare &#8211; which is actually their CSE meant to be used on multiple sites &#8211; but its ad free which means you can use it to search your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Kingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the spammy double posting, but I just realised - Will Google show Ad-free Site Search to businesses that pay for the privilege?

That way, companies stick out in the results, their brand won&#039;t be competing against AdWords and Google gets a cut of some money. 

Surely they will at least provide the option for that in the future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the spammy double posting, but I just realised &#8211; Will Google show Ad-free Site Search to businesses that pay for the privilege?</p>
<p>That way, companies stick out in the results, their brand won&#8217;t be competing against AdWords and Google gets a cut of some money. </p>
<p>Surely they will at least provide the option for that in the future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Kingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt many people would search through the site search boxes on SERPs anyway.

What I&#039;d like to see is how much more likely it is for people to click on your link in SERPs as long as you have the Site Search displayed beneath. That way, it could actually be doing them a favour, far more than it might be costing them in lost traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt many people would search through the site search boxes on SERPs anyway.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to see is how much more likely it is for people to click on your link in SERPs as long as you have the Site Search displayed beneath. That way, it could actually be doing them a favour, far more than it might be costing them in lost traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rishil - it would appear to be the case. Not sure why, maybe there was a court ruling or maybe trademark laws are tougher outside the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rishil &#8211; it would appear to be the case. Not sure why, maybe there was a court ruling or maybe trademark laws are tougher outside the US.</p>
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		<title>By: rishil</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/03/google-site-search-controversy-a-storm-in-a-teacup.html/comment-page-1#comment-44077</link>
		<dc:creator>rishil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh that makes sense - though unfair on the USA? ;) thanks Andy - so in relation to the UK, treatment of trademarks is different...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh that makes sense &#8211; though unfair on the USA? <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  thanks Andy &#8211; so in relation to the UK, treatment of trademarks is different&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/03/google-site-search-controversy-a-storm-in-a-teacup.html/comment-page-1#comment-44075</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rishil &amp; @jaan - you&#039;re both correct:

http://www.google.com/tm_complaint_adwords.html

@Rishil - I&#039;m assuming you are outside the USA--there&#039;s a different policy (can&#039;t bid on trademark keywords) compared to those inside the USA (who can bid, but can&#039;t show in ad creative). :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rishil &#038; @jaan &#8211; you&#8217;re both correct:</p>
<p>http://www.google.com/tm_complaint_adwords.html</p>
<p>@Rishil &#8211; I&#8217;m assuming you are outside the USA&#8211;there&#8217;s a different policy (can&#8217;t bid on trademark keywords) compared to those inside the USA (who can bid, but can&#8217;t show in ad creative). <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rishil</title>
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		<dc:creator>rishil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You arent allowed to bid on brand terms - not just use it on copy - hence you wouldnt see any paid ads when you type in virgin holidays - while you are allowed to bid on holidays - you cant bid on &quot;virgin&quot; and &quot;holidays&quot;

I am 100% positive on this - as I run a HUGE adwords account and brand search is one of our biggest converting factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You arent allowed to bid on brand terms &#8211; not just use it on copy &#8211; hence you wouldnt see any paid ads when you type in virgin holidays &#8211; while you are allowed to bid on holidays &#8211; you cant bid on &#8220;virgin&#8221; and &#8220;holidays&#8221;</p>
<p>I am 100% positive on this &#8211; as I run a HUGE adwords account and brand search is one of our biggest converting factors.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaan - thanks. 

So @rishil, while still unfair, Google is consistent in its handling of trademark terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaan &#8211; thanks. </p>
<p>So @rishil, while still unfair, Google is consistent in its handling of trademark terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaan Kanellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaan Kanellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy that is the way I understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy that is the way I understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/03/google-site-search-controversy-a-storm-in-a-teacup.html/comment-page-1#comment-44070</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rishil - I don&#039;t do a whole lot with AdWords but aren&#039;t you permitted to bid on a trademark term, you&#039;re just not allowed to use it in your ad creative. Anyone care to confirm/correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rishil &#8211; I don&#8217;t do a whole lot with AdWords but aren&#8217;t you permitted to bid on a trademark term, you&#8217;re just not allowed to use it in your ad creative. Anyone care to confirm/correct?</p>
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		<title>By: rishil</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/03/google-site-search-controversy-a-storm-in-a-teacup.html/comment-page-1#comment-44068</link>
		<dc:creator>rishil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy - I havent got ciarans great knack of words - but I still think that my original argument holds - if you cant advertise on Google using brand terms, why is it OK to allow SiS to show ads from competitors? 

Or has google changed the rules and the brand protection doesnt count for anything now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy &#8211; I havent got ciarans great knack of words &#8211; but I still think that my original argument holds &#8211; if you cant advertise on Google using brand terms, why is it OK to allow SiS to show ads from competitors? </p>
<p>Or has google changed the rules and the brand protection doesnt count for anything now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaan Kanellis</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/03/google-site-search-controversy-a-storm-in-a-teacup.html/comment-page-1#comment-44066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaan Kanellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where do we turn it off at?  Would be nice to turn it off in GWT tools.  Is their a way to get a hold of Gooogle to turn this off if we want to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where do we turn it off at?  Would be nice to turn it off in GWT tools.  Is their a way to get a hold of Gooogle to turn this off if we want to?</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone&#039;s a winner? I like that.

However it is a big deal if it&#039;s protected term, surely? That strikes me as a straight-out break of Google&#039;s own T&amp;Cs and a law-suit in the making. Do they want their share price to go down more?!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8217;s a winner? I like that.</p>
<p>However it is a big deal if it&#8217;s protected term, surely? That strikes me as a straight-out break of Google&#8217;s own T&amp;Cs and a law-suit in the making. Do they want their share price to go down more?!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ciaran - when we can hold a discussion that gets us thinking, we both win! :-)

I don&#039;t disagree with the intent argument. I just believe that it&#039;s not a big deal to show AdWords ads alongside site search results. Heck, it&#039;s hard enough to get searchers to click on ads as it is. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ciaran &#8211; when we can hold a discussion that gets us thinking, we both win! <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with the intent argument. I just believe that it&#8217;s not a big deal to show AdWords ads alongside site search results. Heck, it&#8217;s hard enough to get searchers to click on ads as it is. <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, you win the analogy game!

I still disagree though, because of my feelings about user intent. When someone searches for a brand, that&#039;s generally what they want. And anything else is just getting in the way of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, you win the analogy game!</p>
<p>I still disagree though, because of my feelings about user intent. When someone searches for a brand, that&#8217;s generally what they want. And anything else is just getting in the way of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ciaran - nice analogy, but it would be more akin to this:

I ask the bookstore to show me all titles named &quot;Radically Transparent.&quot; They take me to the shelf.

While I&#039;m flicking through the book, I see that there are other books on sale--all placed around Radically Transparent.

If I really wanted to buy Radically Transparent, I&#039;d still buy it. If I&#039;m so distracted by the other books, then perhaps I wasn&#039;t that interested in Radically Transparent to start with.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ciaran &#8211; nice analogy, but it would be more akin to this:</p>
<p>I ask the bookstore to show me all titles named &#8220;Radically Transparent.&#8221; They take me to the shelf.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m flicking through the book, I see that there are other books on sale&#8211;all placed around Radically Transparent.</p>
<p>If I really wanted to buy Radically Transparent, I&#8217;d still buy it. If I&#8217;m so distracted by the other books, then perhaps I wasn&#8217;t that interested in Radically Transparent to start with.</p>
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