Comments on: Does Mozilla Control Apple’s Reputation?

By: Waleof Suous

Waleof Suous — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:57:23 +0000

“Wrong. Mozilla is a software and a project. There are also companies called Mozilla Foundation and Mozilla Corporation. Neither of them own Mozilla or Firefox. It’s written and owned by many people, and many are volunteers. Statements like these show a profound misunderstanding of Open Source and volunteer efforts in general. Not everything is a company or commercial interest.”

You are WRONG here. Firefox (the browser) and Gecko (the engine) are two different things. Mozilla owns Firefox just like Apple owns Safari. Mozilla doesn’t own Gecko just like Apple doesn’t own WebKit. Gecko is free, Firefox is not, it contains proprietary works. You should think more about the reason of Debian and others have to make IceWeasel and IceCat. Next time read the Mozilla EULA, Mozilla owns Firefox, period.

By: Andy Beal

Andy Beal — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:11:16 +0000

@Steven – I agree with you on that. Besides, companies should focus on their own strengths more than their competitors’ weaknesses.

By: Steven Bradley

Steven Bradley — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:05:11 +0000

One thing I would suggest if you're planning on calling out competitors about their mistakes is to not overdo it. If company A consistently points out the flaws in company B, at some point the perception is that company A is just a complainer. Company A could be right in its complaints 100% of the time, but they'll still suffer some backlash. Use in moderation. Steven Bradley's last blog post..Remarkable Is…

By: Web Marketing Man

Web Marketing Man — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:54:27 +0000

Poor Apple…their browser is hardly popular, and now Mozilla, who owns about 30% of the search market, vs 60% for IE6 & 7, is picking on them! Would rather see Mozilla standing up to Microsoft and their bundled browsers.

By: Jayson

Jayson — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:26:55 +0000

@Dude – I think the entire situation was about the user, a lot of Andy’s readers are marketing professionals (execs, business owners etc..), or they’re interested in marketing. Andy was probably just trying to post something his “users” would be interested in.

Mozilla spoke out appropriately IMO – I know my mom would flip if she found something on her computer that she didn’t “knowingly” download!!

The situation shows the power of publicity and the end result gives Mozilla a little more security.

By: Andy Beal

Andy Beal — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:57:45 +0000

@Nextinstinct – thanks for “You’re parsing semantics in lieu of reality.” I thought the same thing, but didn’t want to feed the troll.

By: NextInstinct

NextInstinct — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:02:15 +0000

I saw in the adwords header of a Gmail inbox:

“Apple eases aggressive software updates tactics”
linking to the story,
and figured;
If you preach “We love the Open community”,
and have the fanboys to show for it,
you better get transparent.

@ A Mozilla Contributor
That’s tacitly understood in so far as it means anything.
You’re parsing semantics in lieu of reality.
Trust me, if I build out a hugely successful Firefox branded browser,
I know just whom I’ll face in court.
Mozilla “owns” Firefox.

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By: Dan Villiom Podlaski Christiansen

Dan Villiom Podlaski Christiansen — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:06:55 +0000

Mozilla does indeed own Firefox, or rather the brand. Distributing a browser under the Firefox trademark requires the browser build is approved and sanctioned by Mozilla. Dan Villiom Podlaski Christiansen's last blog post..Neglect

By: A Mozilla contributor

A Mozilla contributor — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:49:43 +0000

“Mozilla owns the Firefox browser”

Wrong. Mozilla is a software and a project. There are also companies called Mozilla Foundation and Mozilla Corporation. Neither of them own Mozilla or Firefox. It’s written and owned by many people, and many are volunteers. Statements like these show a profound misunderstanding of Open Source and volunteer efforts in general. Not everything is a company or commercial interest.

By: Dude

Dude — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:11:53 +0000

“This has been a win win situation for both the parties.”

Both the parties, huh? What about… you know… what’s his name again… oh yeah, the user? From this perspective, nothing has changed, Software Update is still pestering people.

You marketing gurus are a funny bunch. You care about perception, not about the user or customer.

By: Paul Baranda

Paul Baranda — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:10:08 +0000

Seems like Mozilla kept their pimp hand strong... SLAP! Great observations to keep your competitor in check. Paul Baranda's last blog post..2 Simple Must Haves For Every Makeup Bag

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By: Nicole

Nicole — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:07:05 +0000

This has been a win win situation for both the parties. So, why do anything further? Apple has shown grace, and Mozilla has made a point. Matter rests. Nicole's last blog post..eBooks - Another Way to go Green!

By: Seologia

Seologia — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:49:25 +0000

Saw this screen yesterday. Didn’t update since last time I updated a Mac App my iTouch was stripped from all my downloaded apps
Maybe I should’ve read a little better before clicking that “Hell, yeah!” button. Oh, well.

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By: Elections guy

Elections guy — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:11:11 +0000

Mozilla has all industry standards now. Apple can't fight with it. Elections guy's last blog post..South Park: Canada On Strike