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	<title>Comments on: SEO Is Good, But Not the Same as Reputation Management</title>
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		<title>By: Cathy Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-67478</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh! Is there anyone or anything ethical anymore or is the whole society unethical.  This is really sad.  I just wrote a long email to ripoff about my ordeals and then I read your site.  I just don&#039;t know who to believe or trust.  I guess the answer to that is TRUST NO ONE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh! Is there anyone or anything ethical anymore or is the whole society unethical.  This is really sad.  I just wrote a long email to ripoff about my ordeals and then I read your site.  I just don&#8217;t know who to believe or trust.  I guess the answer to that is TRUST NO ONE</p>
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		<title>By: ruinedbyror</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-48251</link>
		<dc:creator>ruinedbyror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ripoffreport is nothing but a extortion scheme, They spam and violate googles terms of service to get 2 to 4 pages of complaints originating from 1 complaint on the first page of google right under your domain or business name, even if it is a false or fraudulant complaint. The only way to have Ed Magedson owner of ROR, to look at the complaint is to pay him lots and lots of money. Google knows that this is ruining thousands of good businesses and allows it to continue to be a nightmare upon the internet business community</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ripoffreport is nothing but a extortion scheme, They spam and violate googles terms of service to get 2 to 4 pages of complaints originating from 1 complaint on the first page of google right under your domain or business name, even if it is a false or fraudulant complaint. The only way to have Ed Magedson owner of ROR, to look at the complaint is to pay him lots and lots of money. Google knows that this is ruining thousands of good businesses and allows it to continue to be a nightmare upon the internet business community</p>
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		<title>By: Web Developer</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47801</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heads up Internet Marketing Joy, I agree its the reputation that counts. People use people that they trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heads up Internet Marketing Joy, I agree its the reputation that counts. People use people that they trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said I liked the title, but I did read beyond its first two words.  

And &quot;Eat Babies, Help the World,&quot; would probably be the title one of the most famous satires ever written in the English language were it written today instead of in 1729.  Most people aren&#039;t too interested in reading something called &quot;A Modest Proposal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said I liked the title, but I did read beyond its first two words.  </p>
<p>And &#8220;Eat Babies, Help the World,&#8221; would probably be the title one of the most famous satires ever written in the English language were it written today instead of in 1729.  Most people aren&#8217;t too interested in reading something called &#8220;A Modest Proposal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tad Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47598</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s the old &quot;SEO is *ull*hit&quot; link bait whether it&#039;s &quot;just joking&quot; in the text does not matter, people just read and remember that SEO is about &quot;gaming Google&quot;.

If you like this title you surely will love &quot;Rob Banks, Help the World!&quot; or &quot;Eat Babies, Help the World&quot;. Stupid sensationalist tabloid writing style.

&lt;em&gt;Tad Chef&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/seo20/~3/290058847/how-to-get-content-and-earn-credibility-with-old-news&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Get Content and Earn Credibility with Old News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s the old &#8220;SEO is *ull*hit&#8221; link bait whether it&#8217;s &#8220;just joking&#8221; in the text does not matter, people just read and remember that SEO is about &#8220;gaming Google&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you like this title you surely will love &#8220;Rob Banks, Help the World!&#8221; or &#8220;Eat Babies, Help the World&#8221;. Stupid sensationalist tabloid writing style.</p>
<p><em>Tad Chef&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/seo20/~3/290058847/how-to-get-content-and-earn-credibility-with-old-news' rel="nofollow">How to Get Content and Earn Credibility with Old News</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to judge an article by its title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to judge an article by its title.</p>
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		<title>By: Tad Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47571</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Game Google&quot;? No, sorry, this article is crap due to reinforcing good old anti-SEO prejudice.

&lt;em&gt;Tad Chef&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/seo20/~3/290058847/how-to-get-content-and-earn-credibility-with-old-news&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Get Content and Earn Credibility with Old News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Game Google&#8221;? No, sorry, this article is crap due to reinforcing good old anti-SEO prejudice.</p>
<p><em>Tad Chef&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/seo20/~3/290058847/how-to-get-content-and-earn-credibility-with-old-news' rel="nofollow">How to Get Content and Earn Credibility with Old News</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is really alarming to see how some people are tainting the SEO industry which according to them is the ethical method, by this I mean those companies just submissions and promise you a good ranking without even having a look at the site.  Because of this many think that optimizing on site is not important when they look for a SEO company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really alarming to see how some people are tainting the SEO industry which according to them is the ethical method, by this I mean those companies just submissions and promise you a good ranking without even having a look at the site.  Because of this many think that optimizing on site is not important when they look for a SEO company.</p>
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		<title>By: wii guy</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47547</link>
		<dc:creator>wii guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should be able to optimise their sites well be they should certainly not write their content for the search engine spiders. Spiders are not subscribers and so content written for spiders will not get you the returning visitors and popularity that you desire.

People that are willing to spend money on optimising their site are likely to be people who are knowledgeable about the subject they themselves are writing about on their site. I would expect their to be a correlation between the  quality of the content and the effort put into SEO.

John

&lt;em&gt;wii guy&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreeIphoneFreeIpodsFreeConsolesAndMore/~3/289569209/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;13 year-old boy involved in high speed car chase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should be able to optimise their sites well be they should certainly not write their content for the search engine spiders. Spiders are not subscribers and so content written for spiders will not get you the returning visitors and popularity that you desire.</p>
<p>People that are willing to spend money on optimising their site are likely to be people who are knowledgeable about the subject they themselves are writing about on their site. I would expect their to be a correlation between the  quality of the content and the effort put into SEO.</p>
<p>John</p>
<p><em>wii guy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreeIphoneFreeIpodsFreeConsolesAndMore/~3/289569209/' rel="nofollow">13 year-old boy involved in high speed car chase</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Internet Marketing Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47544</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, having a nice online reputation is more important..because that way you can earn the trust of your fellow bloggers or marketers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, having a nice online reputation is more important..because that way you can earn the trust of your fellow bloggers or marketers.</p>
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		<title>By: CT Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47496</link>
		<dc:creator>CT Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the mainstream is still missing the point of SEO completely. Who in the world is Googling &quot;together dating&quot;? I imagine that where Together would benefit would be to rank for keywords like &quot;online dating&quot; and &quot;face to fact dating.&quot;

Besides, if Together really wants to clean up the SERPs, they should employ some Universal SEO. That way, even if negative items do show up on the first page of SERPs, they&#039;re pushed below the followed and largely overshadowed by flashier, multi-media results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the mainstream is still missing the point of SEO completely. Who in the world is Googling &#8220;together dating&#8221;? I imagine that where Together would benefit would be to rank for keywords like &#8220;online dating&#8221; and &#8220;face to fact dating.&#8221;</p>
<p>Besides, if Together really wants to clean up the SERPs, they should employ some Universal SEO. That way, even if negative items do show up on the first page of SERPs, they&#8217;re pushed below the followed and largely overshadowed by flashier, multi-media results.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47492</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is. Unfortunately the snake oil salesmen are winning out, just look at all the spam in your mailbox. That&#039;s the suit SEO is wearing in the eyes of designers and that reputation is growing. Perhaps those so called masters need to be referred to as Webtrainees! At the same time you would have to agree that even SEO people are not sure what the search engines are up to. That maybe why there are so many snake oil salesmen amoung them. All SEO knows and does is listed in the Google Webmaster Tools right out there for everyone to see. Is that an industry?

&lt;em&gt;Jim&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.igwebs.com/igblog/?p=6&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO Made Easy!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it is. Unfortunately the snake oil salesmen are winning out, just look at all the spam in your mailbox. That&#8217;s the suit SEO is wearing in the eyes of designers and that reputation is growing. Perhaps those so called masters need to be referred to as Webtrainees! At the same time you would have to agree that even SEO people are not sure what the search engines are up to. That maybe why there are so many snake oil salesmen amoung them. All SEO knows and does is listed in the Google Webmaster Tools right out there for everyone to see. Is that an industry?</p>
<p><em>Jim&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.igwebs.com/igblog/?p=6' rel="nofollow">SEO Made Easy!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Gianoli</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47476</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Gianoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folk at Google are very clever.

Judging by what you described has happened to &quot;Together&quot; it seems Google may have developed a special logarithm to sort out bad customer service, good on them.

Or was it that a geeky loner got duped by &quot;Together&quot; and decided to get their own back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folk at Google are very clever.</p>
<p>Judging by what you described has happened to &#8220;Together&#8221; it seems Google may have developed a special logarithm to sort out bad customer service, good on them.</p>
<p>Or was it that a geeky loner got duped by &#8220;Together&#8221; and decided to get their own back?</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47471</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not really the argument here.  If people considered search engines when initially designing their sites, and consulted SEOs or SEO-trained webmasters during that phase, they wouldn&#039;t need the help afterwards, no.

But in the real world, that seldom happens.  Anyone with a website can be called a webmaster; few if any know the first thing about SEO, which is why it&#039;s become a separate industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not really the argument here.  If people considered search engines when initially designing their sites, and consulted SEOs or SEO-trained webmasters during that phase, they wouldn&#8217;t need the help afterwards, no.</p>
<p>But in the real world, that seldom happens.  Anyone with a website can be called a webmaster; few if any know the first thing about SEO, which is why it&#8217;s become a separate industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47463</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I know what you mean by SEO snake oil salesmen Jordan but I&#039;m not sure if I agree with everything you say about SEO! You say websites designed by Webmaster lack clarity, search friedliness and are un-optimized. Well, maybe Webmaster is the wrong word for them! A website needs to be search friendly, clear with good working internal links and yes optimized too. Those are the job of the Webmaster. That&#039;s what they&#039;re suppose to do. If they did, what would happen to SEO? That&#039;s like having to hire a brick layer because the house wasn&#039;t framed right. If SEO exits because of poor Webmasters, then maybe we should be working on Webmasters. Its just my opinion.

&lt;em&gt;Jim&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.igwebs.com/igblog/?p=6&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO Made Easy!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I know what you mean by SEO snake oil salesmen Jordan but I&#8217;m not sure if I agree with everything you say about SEO! You say websites designed by Webmaster lack clarity, search friedliness and are un-optimized. Well, maybe Webmaster is the wrong word for them! A website needs to be search friendly, clear with good working internal links and yes optimized too. Those are the job of the Webmaster. That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re suppose to do. If they did, what would happen to SEO? That&#8217;s like having to hire a brick layer because the house wasn&#8217;t framed right. If SEO exits because of poor Webmasters, then maybe we should be working on Webmasters. Its just my opinion.</p>
<p><em>Jim&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.igwebs.com/igblog/?p=6' rel="nofollow">SEO Made Easy!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/seo-reputation-management-not-same-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-47459</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reputation management isn’t just positioning press releases and paid blog reviews. It also takes a look at what you’re doing, what you might need to change, and how you can address and defray the negative reviews that are already out there.&quot;

Spot on! 

In Radically Transparent, we explain that you need good character otherwise you&#039;ll never have a good reputation. If they don&#039;t change their behavior, then reputation management simply becomes a game of whack-a-mole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reputation management isn’t just positioning press releases and paid blog reviews. It also takes a look at what you’re doing, what you might need to change, and how you can address and defray the negative reviews that are already out there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spot on! </p>
<p>In Radically Transparent, we explain that you need good character otherwise you&#8217;ll never have a good reputation. If they don&#8217;t change their behavior, then reputation management simply becomes a game of whack-a-mole.</p>
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