Comments on: For the Future of Search, Microsoft Takes a 10-Year Backward Step http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Juicy Links: July 21 - July 25 : Exclusive Concepts Blog http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53114 Juicy Links: July 21 - July 25 : Exclusive Concepts Blog Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:22:25 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53114 [...] For the Future of Search, Microsoft Takes a 10-Year Backward Step [...] [...] For the Future of Search, Microsoft Takes a 10-Year Backward Step [...]

]]> By: Tony http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53043 Tony Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:19:32 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53043 It's time they wake up. It’s time they wake up.

]]> By: SEO I-COM http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53038 SEO I-COM Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:20:19 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53038 BrowseRank calculated by the number/length of visits. Sincerely, MSN even after all these never stop surprising me. Have they been researching all these years to come up with this backward solution?! BrowseRank calculated by the number/length of visits. Sincerely, MSN even after all these never stop surprising me. Have they been researching all these years to come up with this backward solution?!

]]> By: Rakhi http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53032 Rakhi Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:31:45 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53032 A good way of making estimate and traffic manipulation. But again will take a great heart to implement this. It is easy in saying but difficult to practically find right solution. A good way of making estimate and traffic manipulation. But again will take a great heart to implement this. It is easy in saying but difficult to practically find right solution.

]]> By: Jayson http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53018 Jayson Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:53:22 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53018 Yeah, it's not a bad theory, but it would be hard to - not - rule out important pages and vice versa. There's just too many different situations in which their data could be flawed. On second thought, they have data we only dream about and more than likely have already put types of websites in certain ranges - outliers win and lose - . With millions of tweaks, and a few thousand hand-jobs, they could have a pretty solid search. @skywalker - IE Yeah, it’s not a bad theory, but it would be hard to – not – rule out important pages and vice versa.

There’s just too many different situations in which their data could be flawed.

On second thought, they have data we only dream about and more than likely have already put types of websites in certain ranges – outliers win and lose – . With millions of tweaks, and a few thousand hand-jobs, they could have a pretty solid search.

@skywalker – IE

]]> By: Dave http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53012 Dave Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:59:22 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53012 The paper states at BrowseRank was more effective at reducing spam than both PageRank and TrustRank. Additionally, PageRank is easily manipulated via paid links - BrosweRank, not so much. It should also be noted that something like BrowseRank or PageRank isn't the only factor in rankings and is a small piece of the pie. The paper states at BrowseRank was more effective at reducing spam than both PageRank and TrustRank. Additionally, PageRank is easily manipulated via paid links – BrosweRank, not so much. It should also be noted that something like BrowseRank or PageRank isn’t the only factor in rankings and is a small piece of the pie.

]]> By: wolf http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53004 wolf Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:00:46 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53004 The FAROO P2P Search Engine has been doing something very similar for some time already: http://blog.faroo.com/?p=36 <em>wolf's last blog post..<a href='http://www.faroo.com/english/download/history.html' rel="nofollow">FAROO Version 2.0.3109.26002 - Release Date 7.7.2008</a></em> The FAROO P2P Search Engine has been doing something very similar for some time already: http://blog.faroo.com/?p=36

wolf’s last blog post..FAROO Version 2.0.3109.26002 – Release Date 7.7.2008

]]> By: life_eclipse http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-53003 life_eclipse Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:43:29 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-53003 They need to stick to making operating systems and software. When it comes to the internet they are "lost in the sauce". The simple fact is that Yahoo! and MSN work night and day to figure out how they can make money off their users and in my opinion try to find ways to (unsuccessfully) disguise their services as user friendly and free when they are really doing nothing but compliling demographics for marketing "partners". If they spent more time working on providing truly free, "no strings attached" content and focused on unique (not just imitation Google services) services, they actually might have a chance to compete with Google. That's not to say Google doesn't exist to make money, but it's obvious they put the user first. Seems Microsoft and Yahoo! spend more money trying to convince their users they are the best then they spend on actually providing the experience the users seek. Sorry a little off-topic but I believe very relevant in regards to the psychology behind the Microsoft "strategy". They need to stick to making operating systems and software. When it comes to the internet they are “lost in the sauce”. The simple fact is that Yahoo! and MSN work night and day to figure out how they can make money off their users and in my opinion try to find ways to (unsuccessfully) disguise their services as user friendly and free when they are really doing nothing but compliling demographics for marketing “partners”. If they spent more time working on providing truly free, “no strings attached” content and focused on unique (not just imitation Google services) services, they actually might have a chance to compete with Google. That’s not to say Google doesn’t exist to make money, but it’s obvious they put the user first. Seems Microsoft and Yahoo! spend more money trying to convince their users they are the best then they spend on actually providing the experience the users seek. Sorry a little off-topic but I believe very relevant in regards to the psychology behind the Microsoft “strategy”.

]]> By: Warenwirtschaft http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52999 Warenwirtschaft Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:22:14 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52999 I think the basic of the idea is sound, but it is nearly impossible to implement. I think the basic of the idea is sound, but it is nearly impossible to implement.

]]> By: Nicole Price http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52998 Nicole Price Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:20:35 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52998 ROTFL! <em>Nicole Price's last blog post..<a href='http://www.greatpriceshere.com/2008/07/25/environment-friendly-gifts/' rel="nofollow">Green Gifts</a></em> ROTFL!

Nicole Price’s last blog post..Green Gifts

]]> By: Utah SEO Pro http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52990 Utah SEO Pro Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:04:42 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52990 They need to give it up. Srsly. just stop. <em>Utah SEO Pro's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jordankasteler.com/utah-seo-pro-blog/keyword-research-seo-2/' rel="nofollow">Advanced Keyword Research for SEO</a></em> They need to give it up. Srsly. just stop.

Utah SEO Pro’s last blog post..Advanced Keyword Research for SEO

]]> By: Joe http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52989 Joe Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:38:48 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52989 Bottom line: Microsoft is a bunch of out-of-touch money-hungry corporate-bot idiots. I rest my case (and my hyphens). Bottom line: Microsoft is a bunch of out-of-touch money-hungry corporate-bot idiots. I rest my case (and my hyphens).

]]> By: Patrick http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52988 Patrick Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:03:36 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52988 I think this is sad because it is from Micrsoft and I just hope they don't lose their credibility. I think this is sad because it is from Micrsoft and I just hope they don’t lose their credibility.

]]> By: BrowseRank - Microsoft’s Answer to PageRank http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52985 BrowseRank - Microsoft’s Answer to PageRank Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:08:03 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52985 [...] so fast. Andy Beal points out the obvious shortcomings: “More visits?” - sure, spammers will have no idea how to [...] [...] so fast. Andy Beal points out the obvious shortcomings: “More visits?” – sure, spammers will have no idea how to [...]

]]> By: Erik http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52983 Erik Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:36:59 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52983 Are they serious or is this some type of reverse thinking whereas they actually will punish those sites that make a huge jump in this criteria after the release of this insane statement? <em>Erik's last blog post..<a href='http://www.erikvossman.com/2008/07/22/wordpress-user-video-upload-script-as-a-php-consultant/' rel="nofollow">Wordpress User Video Upload Script as a PHP Consultant</a></em> Are they serious or is this some type of reverse thinking whereas they actually will punish those sites that make a huge jump in this criteria after the release of this insane statement?

Erik’s last blog post..WordPress User Video Upload Script as a PHP Consultant

]]> By: free market research http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52981 free market research Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:33:18 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52981 gobsmacked gobsmacked

]]> By: skywalker http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52979 skywalker Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:08:33 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52979 This paper was written by some interns at their China research facility. Not bad idea, but implementation could be a problem. First of all how do you get all the user's browsing behaviour data? This paper was written by some interns at their China research facility. Not bad idea, but implementation could be a problem. First of all how do you get all the user’s browsing behaviour data?

]]> By: Jaan Kanellis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html/comment-page-1#comment-52976 Jaan Kanellis Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:21:32 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/for-the-future-of-search-microsoft-takes-a-10-year-backward-step.html#comment-52976 Wow really sad. They really need to hire some people at least abreast as to what is happening in the online marketing industry as a whole to put the brakes on crap like this. <em>Jaan Kanellis's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jaankanellis.com/tbpr-updating-and-penalities-being-removed-by-google/' rel="nofollow">TBPR Updating and Penalties Being Removed by Google</a></em> Wow really sad. They really need to hire some people at least abreast as to what is happening in the online marketing industry as a whole to put the brakes on crap like this.

Jaan Kanellis’s last blog post..TBPR Updating and Penalties Being Removed by Google

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