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		<title>By: david calvert - web designer</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-67531</link>
		<dc:creator>david calvert - web designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. I do feel that we will never really find out and we&#039;l just keep on link building, writing good content, meta data, keeping things fresh, designed to good standards and targeted to our respective audiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. I do feel that we will never really find out and we&#8217;l just keep on link building, writing good content, meta data, keeping things fresh, designed to good standards and targeted to our respective audiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel Point</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-52456</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel Point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will never spill the beans so easy.

&lt;em&gt;Travel Point&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.bmgsurvey.com/the-samba-of-brazil/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Samba of Brazil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will never spill the beans so easy.</p>
<p><em>Travel Point&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.bmgsurvey.com/the-samba-of-brazil/' rel="nofollow">The Samba of Brazil</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: nile</title>
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		<dc:creator>nile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singhal say No &quot;manual intervention&quot; But what is case of wikipedia, it`s a only son of google?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singhal say No &#8220;manual intervention&#8221; But what is case of wikipedia, it`s a only son of google?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Isaacs</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-52180</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Isaacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sites definitely rank in different spots between yahoo and google.  Does anyone have a good explanation as to why or how to control it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sites definitely rank in different spots between yahoo and google.  Does anyone have a good explanation as to why or how to control it?</p>
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		<title>By: PS3</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, just like the recipe for KFC!

The mystery will keep so called SEO &quot;gurus&quot; in jobs for a good while.  From my layman;s view, it is a lot of trial and error!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, just like the recipe for KFC!</p>
<p>The mystery will keep so called SEO &#8220;gurus&#8221; in jobs for a good while.  From my layman;s view, it is a lot of trial and error!</p>
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		<title>By: Goran Web Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goran Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Search Engine Optimisation, how it works will always be a mystery and how they say what they say will always be coded with a certain amount of truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Search Engine Optimisation, how it works will always be a mystery and how they say what they say will always be coded with a certain amount of truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Search Engine Optimisation</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-52085</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Engine Optimisation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth of the matter is that Google are not going to let us know their secrets, and they will always ensure they are one step ahead of the SEO. That is how they are top for search results. Although I would love to work out their algo&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth of the matter is that Google are not going to let us know their secrets, and they will always ensure they are one step ahead of the SEO. That is how they are top for search results. Although I would love to work out their algo&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-52024</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you might be better off reading their patent information for a more accurate look at seo + their algo.

&lt;em&gt;Mr Marketing&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.exposedseo.com/2008/07/06/negative-pr-is-still-pr/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Negative PR is still PR.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might be better off reading their patent information for a more accurate look at seo + their algo.</p>
<p><em>Mr Marketing&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.exposedseo.com/2008/07/06/negative-pr-is-still-pr/' rel="nofollow">Negative PR is still PR.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Web Marketing Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Marketing Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is just playing with us. There is so much inconsistency with them that it is super frustrating at times when one has to figure out what exactly is what.

As far as the local search aspect is concerned, one can stipulate pages from your local zone, which will give only locally relevant returns only, or pages from the web, which will add the best international sites, along with the top locally ranked ones.

Am based in South Africa, and it works pretty well for us, giving a spread of local results, combined with the top international results to compare against. The challenge is to get local stuff up to international spec, but not too much drek comes through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is just playing with us. There is so much inconsistency with them that it is super frustrating at times when one has to figure out what exactly is what.</p>
<p>As far as the local search aspect is concerned, one can stipulate pages from your local zone, which will give only locally relevant returns only, or pages from the web, which will add the best international sites, along with the top locally ranked ones.</p>
<p>Am based in South Africa, and it works pretty well for us, giving a spread of local results, combined with the top international results to compare against. The challenge is to get local stuff up to international spec, but not too much drek comes through.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan McCollum</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-51927</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan McCollum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TRD&#8212;Isn&#039;t that the exact &lt;em&gt;opposite&lt;/em&gt; of what Singhal said here?  He said the best local result should be shown in all results (&quot;Best locally relevant results served globally.&quot;), and you&#039;re seeing poor local results beating good global results.  

I don&#039;t doubt that you&#039;re right, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s an example of the first principle actually &quot;working.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TRD&mdash;Isn&#8217;t that the exact <em>opposite</em> of what Singhal said here?  He said the best local result should be shown in all results (&#8220;Best locally relevant results served globally.&#8221;), and you&#8217;re seeing poor local results beating good global results.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that you&#8217;re right, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s an example of the first principle actually &#8220;working.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Top Rated Digital</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Rated Digital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As cryptic as ever, but who can blame them . . . they do hold the secret to life the universe and everything.  Seriously though, I have seen the locally adjusted SERP results in action.  Being that I&#039;m in Canada, I often see Canadian based websites show up near the top, that wouldn&#039;t even make the first page when queried from the US.

&lt;em&gt;Top Rated Digital&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://foolishmumbles.com/2008/06/26/the-top-10-digital-cameras-ripped-apart/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Top 10 Digital Cameras Ripped Apart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As cryptic as ever, but who can blame them . . . they do hold the secret to life the universe and everything.  Seriously though, I have seen the locally adjusted SERP results in action.  Being that I&#8217;m in Canada, I often see Canadian based websites show up near the top, that wouldn&#8217;t even make the first page when queried from the US.</p>
<p><em>Top Rated Digital&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://foolishmumbles.com/2008/06/26/the-top-10-digital-cameras-ripped-apart/' rel="nofollow">The Top 10 Digital Cameras Ripped Apart</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: CD Interest Rates</title>
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		<dc:creator>CD Interest Rates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think total transparancy would hurt more than it helps.  The small Mom &amp; Pops wouldn&#039;t have a chance against bigger shops that would just have so much more resources to dominate. At least know Moms and Pops can go after longer-tail phrases / low hanging fruit while the bigger shops duke it for the big prize on more generalized terms. 

I honestly think some sort of rotating ranking system would be more accurate.  Within our niche, there are a good 30 - 50 sites that have good info.  But only 10 really get featured because they get the 1st page rankings.  I know many will think that wreaks of being unfair, but if you really want the Moms and Pops to be on a level playing field, I think that would do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think total transparancy would hurt more than it helps.  The small Mom &amp; Pops wouldn&#8217;t have a chance against bigger shops that would just have so much more resources to dominate. At least know Moms and Pops can go after longer-tail phrases / low hanging fruit while the bigger shops duke it for the big prize on more generalized terms. </p>
<p>I honestly think some sort of rotating ranking system would be more accurate.  Within our niche, there are a good 30 &#8211; 50 sites that have good info.  But only 10 really get featured because they get the 1st page rankings.  I know many will think that wreaks of being unfair, but if you really want the Moms and Pops to be on a level playing field, I think that would do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as usual, google is very vague. The title of the article got me awfully excited, but I&#039;m afraid Singhal&#039;s revelations let me down a bit.

&lt;em&gt;Lorien&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://icrushalot.com/graphics/i-miss-you-so-much-graphic&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Miss You So Much Graphic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as usual, google is very vague. The title of the article got me awfully excited, but I&#8217;m afraid Singhal&#8217;s revelations let me down a bit.</p>
<p><em>Lorien&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://icrushalot.com/graphics/i-miss-you-so-much-graphic' rel="nofollow">I Miss You So Much Graphic</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: tmdesigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmdesigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interpretazione interessante.. ora è da testare sui siti web..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interpretazione interessante.. ora è da testare sui siti web..</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How very enlightening.  Was this needed?

&lt;em&gt;Nicole Price&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.greatpriceshere.com/2008/07/10/hair-care-products-discounts-deals/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hair Care Products: Discounts and Deals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How very enlightening.  Was this needed?</p>
<p><em>Nicole Price&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.greatpriceshere.com/2008/07/10/hair-care-products-discounts-deals/' rel="nofollow">Hair Care Products: Discounts and Deals</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that they do the rank based on that guidance. The rank changing is oftenly unpredictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that they do the rank based on that guidance. The rank changing is oftenly unpredictable.</p>
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		<title>By: Cars blog</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-explains-ranking-basically.html/comment-page-1#comment-51886</link>
		<dc:creator>Cars blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They definitely modify the search results manually if they find someone doing aggressive SEO.. isn&#039;t it ?

&lt;em&gt;Cars blog&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.carplanetonline.com/sony-mexr1-car-dvd-player-review/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sony MEXR1 Car DVD Player Review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They definitely modify the search results manually if they find someone doing aggressive SEO.. isn&#8217;t it ?</p>
<p><em>Cars blog&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.carplanetonline.com/sony-mexr1-car-dvd-player-review/' rel="nofollow">Sony MEXR1 Car DVD Player Review</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Isaacs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Isaacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about writing your own ticket.  If someone could figure out how the algorithm worked they&#039;d be set for life.  I&#039;m sure they make sure their employees are employees for a very long time.  

Until then we&#039;ll all just have to keep guessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about writing your own ticket.  If someone could figure out how the algorithm worked they&#8217;d be set for life.  I&#8217;m sure they make sure their employees are employees for a very long time.  </p>
<p>Until then we&#8217;ll all just have to keep guessing.</p>
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		<title>By: Utah SEO Pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utah SEO Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we want to serve relevant results&quot;. &quot;create good content&quot;. if i had a nickel for everytime i hear that stuff.

&lt;em&gt;Utah SEO Pro&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.jordankasteler.com/utah-seo-pro-blog/latest-interview-brian/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interview with SEO: Brian Carter and Search Engine Journal Post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we want to serve relevant results&#8221;. &#8220;create good content&#8221;. if i had a nickel for everytime i hear that stuff.</p>
<p><em>Utah SEO Pro&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.jordankasteler.com/utah-seo-pro-blog/latest-interview-brian/' rel="nofollow">Interview with SEO: Brian Carter and Search Engine Journal Post</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Joe as well. But ya know in the end its in Google&#039;s (and ourselves) best interest to keep their system under raps. Not, only to keep SEOs from gaming it, but also to keep businesses competitive. If we all knew exactly how to game Google then SEM would be a piece of cake and there would be very little competition between competing businesses - we would all do the same thing. Innovation would go out the window and the internet would be a tiny bit less interesting....Although we would still have LOLCATS!

&lt;em&gt;Joe Hall&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.jozsoft.com/blog/?p=10&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Top 5 National Real Estate Franchise Web Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Joe as well. But ya know in the end its in Google&#8217;s (and ourselves) best interest to keep their system under raps. Not, only to keep SEOs from gaming it, but also to keep businesses competitive. If we all knew exactly how to game Google then SEM would be a piece of cake and there would be very little competition between competing businesses &#8211; we would all do the same thing. Innovation would go out the window and the internet would be a tiny bit less interesting&#8230;.Although we would still have LOLCATS!</p>
<p><em>Joe Hall&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.jozsoft.com/blog/?p=10' rel="nofollow">Top 5 National Real Estate Franchise Web Sites</a></em></p>
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