Comments on: Google Now Crawling Adobe Flash Files, Ruins the Web in the Process http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Google Learns to Crawl Flash Sites - Critical Reactions From The Blogosphere | Max The Web http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-66486 Google Learns to Crawl Flash Sites - Critical Reactions From The Blogosphere | Max The Web Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:04:40 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-66486 [...] Beal from Marketing Pilgrim adds: Google just destroyed the web. (…) Until (the search engine) can demonstrate that its [...] [...] Beal from Marketing Pilgrim adds: Google just destroyed the web. (…) Until (the search engine) can demonstrate that its [...]

]]> By: Google Learns to Crawl Flash Sites | Max The Web http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-60868 Google Learns to Crawl Flash Sites | Max The Web Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:03:14 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-60868 [...] Beal from Marketing Pilgrim adds: Google just destroyed the web. (…) Until (the search engine) can demonstrate that its [...] [...] Beal from Marketing Pilgrim adds: Google just destroyed the web. (…) Until (the search engine) can demonstrate that its [...]

]]> By: Decyphering Google’s Ability To Index Flash - EngineWorks http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-53176 Decyphering Google’s Ability To Index Flash - EngineWorks Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:00:25 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-53176 [...] Searchability FAQ Bobby van der Sluis’ article for Adobe.com Vanessa Fox on Search Engine Land Andy Beal on Marketing Pilgrim Eric Schonfeld on TechCrunch         [...] [...] Searchability FAQ Bobby van der Sluis’ article for Adobe.com Vanessa Fox on Search Engine Land Andy Beal on Marketing Pilgrim Eric Schonfeld on TechCrunch         [...]

]]> By: Google’s Improved Flash Indexing – What It Means for SEO | Franklin Bishop http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-52797 Google’s Improved Flash Indexing – What It Means for SEO | Franklin Bishop Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:45:49 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-52797 [...] Andy Beal’s post on Marketing Pilgrim cautioning against all-out Flash adoption [...] [...] Andy Beal’s post on Marketing Pilgrim cautioning against all-out Flash adoption [...]

]]> By: WilsonHines http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-52773 WilsonHines Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:53:05 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-52773 The <a href="http://nikeplus.nike.com/nikeplus" rel="nofollow">Nike+</a> website is the perfect example of a "love/hate? relationship with Adobe Flash. Sometimes I love what the software can do with my running stats and such. However, the load time sucks - even on cable. Sometimes the navigation on the site doesn't make too much sense, either. <em>WilsonHines's last blog post..<a href='http://wilsonhines.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/its-a-small-world-even-for-barak-and-me/' rel="nofollow">It's a small world, even for Barak and me</a></em> The Nike+ website is the perfect example of a "love/hate? relationship with Adobe Flash. Sometimes I love what the software can do with my running stats and such. However, the load time sucks – even on cable. Sometimes the navigation on the site doesn’t make too much sense, either.

WilsonHines’s last blog post..It’s a small world, even for Barak and me

]]> By: Google’s Improved Flash Indexing – What It Means for SEO http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-52602 Google’s Improved Flash Indexing – What It Means for SEO Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:39:35 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-52602 [...] Andy Beal’s post on Marketing Pilgrim cautioning against all-out Flash adoption [...] [...] Andy Beal’s post on Marketing Pilgrim cautioning against all-out Flash adoption [...]

]]> By: GameReclaim http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-52198 GameReclaim Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:11:02 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-52198 I personally like the idea for a simple reason. When I make a flash game and publish it on the web it gets stolen by let's say 100 sites in the following 48 hours. The game contains a link to my site but that's worthless because google can't see it. Example: search for "astroflyer". the official site is on the 14th page. I personally like the idea for a simple reason. When I make a flash game and publish it on the web it gets stolen by let’s say 100 sites in the following 48 hours. The game contains a link to my site but that’s worthless because google can’t see it. Example: search for “astroflyer”. the official site is on the 14th page.

]]> By: Top Rated Digital http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51450 Top Rated Digital Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:07:02 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51450 I'm with you on this one Andy . . . . yeccchhhh! Although, I wouldn't worry about Google destroying the web this move (they already did that with AdSense). I don't see too many SEO's jumping into flash because of this. Most people that design flash sites, couldn't care less about search engine traffic. They're going for the cool factor. Or more likely their idea of "cool". <em>Top Rated Digital's last blog post..<a href='http://foolishmumbles.com/2008/06/26/the-top-10-digital-cameras-ripped-apart/' rel="nofollow">The Top 10 Digital Cameras Ripped Apart</a></em> I’m with you on this one Andy . . . . yeccchhhh! Although, I wouldn’t worry about Google destroying the web this move (they already did that with AdSense). I don’t see too many SEO’s jumping into flash because of this. Most people that design flash sites, couldn’t care less about search engine traffic. They’re going for the cool factor. Or more likely their idea of “cool”.

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]]> By: PS3 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51359 PS3 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:58:04 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51359 I've noticed in the past that Google has indexed some flash elements on a page but never a whole site. Time will tell. I’ve noticed in the past that Google has indexed some flash elements on a page but never a whole site. Time will tell.

]]> By: » SEO Gets Flushed - Goolge Gets Flashed Search Engine Optimization Journal - SEO and Search Engine Marketing Blog http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51300 » SEO Gets Flushed - Goolge Gets Flashed Search Engine Optimization Journal - SEO and Search Engine Marketing Blog Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:51:59 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51300 [...] Beal has reported on Google’s latest announcement relating to their ability to now spider Flash files and index the text content found. This includes [...] [...] Beal has reported on Google’s latest announcement relating to their ability to now spider Flash files and index the text content found. This includes [...]

]]> By: Google Learns to Crawl Flash Sites - Critical Reactions From The Blogosphere | Marc Baumann http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51270 Google Learns to Crawl Flash Sites - Critical Reactions From The Blogosphere | Marc Baumann Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:55:58 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51270 [...] Beal from Marketing Pilgrim adds: Google just destroyed the web. (…) Until (the search engine) can demonstrate that its [...] [...] Beal from Marketing Pilgrim adds: Google just destroyed the web. (…) Until (the search engine) can demonstrate that its [...]

]]> By: Anil Kumar Singh http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51265 Anil Kumar Singh Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:36:55 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51265 This is really good news for SEO expert but i think normal Static page is always better from SEO perspective. This is really good news for SEO expert but i think normal Static page is always better from SEO perspective.

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51243 Andy Beal Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:33:58 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51243 @Derek - I'm not an expert in nuclear fallout either, but I know it's not healthy. :-) Flash is, mostly, a very poor option for usability and, until today's announcement proves otherwise, SEO. @Derek – I’m not an expert in nuclear fallout either, but I know it’s not healthy. :-)

Flash is, mostly, a very poor option for usability and, until today’s announcement proves otherwise, SEO.

]]> By: Derek http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51240 Derek Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:08:39 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51240 Andy...you said: "sorry, I’m not a Flash expert, so I have no idea." So how can you put down the application so easily? There's lots of ways that this can benefit sites created in flash as well as flex. I really do not see any logic in your argument besides the fact that you simply have an opinion that you do not like flash. It's a step forward for flash and seo in my eyes. Both regular site design as well as flash site design have their place. "Google just ruined the web." ... i think that's a little over the top. Andy…you said:

“sorry, I’m not a Flash expert, so I have no idea.”

So how can you put down the application so easily?

There’s lots of ways that this can benefit sites created in flash as well as flex.

I really do not see any logic in your argument besides the fact that you simply have an opinion that you do not like flash.

It’s a step forward for flash and seo in my eyes.

Both regular site design as well as flash site design have their place.

“Google just ruined the web.” … i think that’s a little over the top.

]]> By: Utah Search Engine Optimization http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51228 Utah Search Engine Optimization Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:07:33 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51228 Oh man, I fear clients now saying "look! we can do flash..yay". You're right, until proven that Flash is an HTML equivalent..forget it! <em>Utah Search Engine Optimization's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jordankasteler.com/utah-seo-pro-blog/unwritten-social-media/' rel="nofollow">The Unwritten Laws of Social Media</a></em> Oh man, I fear clients now saying “look! we can do flash..yay”. You’re right, until proven that Flash is an HTML equivalent..forget it!

Utah Search Engine Optimization’s last blog post..The Unwritten Laws of Social Media

]]> By: Joe Hall http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51208 Joe Hall Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:02:22 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51208 @tmdesigner I agree we will see if this changes anything through the SERPs. <em>Joe Hall's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jozsoft.com/blog/?p=9' rel="nofollow">ICANN Hands Out SEO Gold Nuggets to Large Corporations</a></em> @tmdesigner I agree we will see if this changes anything through the SERPs.

Joe Hall’s last blog post..ICANN Hands Out SEO Gold Nuggets to Large Corporations

]]> By: tmdesigner http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51206 tmdesigner Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:54:50 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51206 Una notizia davvero sconvolgente e sorprendente... vedremo quali sono i risultati reali sulle serp. Google continua a sorprenderci! Una notizia davvero sconvolgente e sorprendente… vedremo quali sono i risultati reali sulle serp. Google continua a sorprenderci!

]]> By: Arthur Freydin http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51205 Arthur Freydin Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:29:53 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51205 While having Google index Flash sites is great, what happens when a query points to a "section" deep inside the Flash site? I'm pretty sure that their search query is still going to land them on the beginning of the Flash file. Even if Google has figured out how to land a user on a specific section within a Flash file (a bit unlikely), how will usability be affected? A site built on Flash introduces all kinds of "great" usability but can be very tight when it comes to linear navigation. <em>Arthur Freydin's last blog post..<a href='http://arthurfreydin.com/xobni-more-useful-with-linkedin-integration-but-not-much/' rel="nofollow">Xobni is a Bit More Useful with LinkedIn Integration, But Not Much</a></em> While having Google index Flash sites is great, what happens when a query points to a “section” deep inside the Flash site? I’m pretty sure that their search query is still going to land them on the beginning of the Flash file.
Even if Google has figured out how to land a user on a specific section within a Flash file (a bit unlikely), how will usability be affected? A site built on Flash introduces all kinds of “great” usability but can be very tight when it comes to linear navigation.

Arthur Freydin’s last blog post..Xobni is a Bit More Useful with LinkedIn Integration, But Not Much

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51203 Andy Beal Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:02:26 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51203 @Mike - I wouldn't care about the links either, but I would care about the user experience for my customers--which, with that Flash site, is lousy. :-) @Mike – I wouldn’t care about the links either, but I would care about the user experience for my customers–which, with that Flash site, is lousy. :-)

]]> By: Mike http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html/comment-page-1#comment-51201 Mike Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:56:41 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/07/google-now-crawling-adobe-flash-files-ruins-the-web-in-the-process.html#comment-51201 I actually wrote a post about <a href="http://www.webbythoughts.com/128/one-reason-to-avoid-flash-based-sites/" rel="nofollow">having trouble linking to Taco Bell</a> just the other day. I think an all flash site is a bad way to go just for that reason. But I doubt Taco Bell or McDonalds, etc, is really that worried about direct links...especially to their nutritional information :) <em>Mike's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WebbyThoughts/~3/324124534/' rel="nofollow">Search Engines Indexing Flash</a></em> I actually wrote a post about having trouble linking to Taco Bell just the other day. I think an all flash site is a bad way to go just for that reason. But I doubt Taco Bell or McDonalds, etc, is really that worried about direct links…especially to their nutritional information :)

Mike’s last blog post..Search Engines Indexing Flash

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