Comments on: The New York Times Threatened by Google? http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html Internet Marketing News Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:28:33 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: brando the Great http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-57222 brando the Great Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:56:25 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-57222 I don't think NYT has anything to worry about-- google has no cartoons. I don’t think NYT has anything to worry about– google has no cartoons.

]]> By: Juicy Links: August 11 - August 15 : Exclusive Concepts Blog http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-54422 Juicy Links: August 11 - August 15 : Exclusive Concepts Blog Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:30:53 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-54422 [...] The New York Times Threatened by Google? [...] [...] The New York Times Threatened by Google? [...]

]]> By: sumitroy http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-54093 sumitroy Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:37:17 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-54093 I think your post lacks any depth of analysis on what exactly Nytimes emphasised. NYtimes is not threatened by Google,since they don"t compete in the same space. Knol is a user generated content which does not have an editorial filter.. Whereas Nytimes is all about the best of news and analysis.. The problem is Google cannot act as a distributer and a content provided at the same time... that is a conflict of interest..this argument perfectly makes sense. Regarding your logic of Google Adsense helping to Monetize media propeties.. lets face it .. Google is not doing a favor or a charity by allowing them to run ads.. They do brokerage of ads.. by purchasing them at a lower price and selling them at a higher price... Tomorrow if Knol comes up in the top of Google search results...That will drive away a lot of publishers to other media advertisers.. I dont think that should sound good to Google. <em>sumitroy's last blog post..<a href='http://onlinemarketingtrends.blogspot.com/2008/08/al-gore-joins-web20-summit-in-november.html' rel="nofollow">AL Gore Joins Web2.0 Summit In November</a></em> I think your post lacks any depth of analysis on what exactly Nytimes emphasised.

NYtimes is not threatened by Google,since they don”t compete in the same space. Knol is a user generated content which does not have an editorial filter.. Whereas Nytimes is all about the best of news and analysis.. The problem is Google cannot act as a distributer and a content provided at the same time… that is a conflict of interest..this argument perfectly makes sense.

Regarding your logic of Google Adsense helping to Monetize media propeties.. lets face it .. Google is not doing a favor or a charity by allowing them to run ads.. They do brokerage of ads.. by purchasing them at a lower price and selling them at a higher price…

Tomorrow if Knol comes up in the top of Google search results…That will drive away a lot of publishers to other media advertisers.. I dont think that should sound good to Google.

sumitroy’s last blog post..AL Gore Joins Web2.0 Summit In November

]]> By: Research Via Web 2.0 | School Communications 2.0 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-54056 Research Via Web 2.0 | School Communications 2.0 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:29:50 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-54056 [...] The New York Times Threatened by Google? [...] [...] The New York Times Threatened by Google? [...]

]]> By: CT Moore http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-54025 CT Moore Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:30:18 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-54025 I think that right now, Google (and Yahoo) might just be facing the potential risk of being bought out by MSM company. If Congress decides to mess with their behavioral ad targeting model, they can end up in dire enough financial straights that someone like Rupert Murdoch could easily swoop in and snatch them up. Consider: http://gypsybandito.com/the-real-google-killer/ <em>CT Moore's last blog post..<a href='http://gypsybandito.com/the-real-google-killer/' rel="nofollow">The Real Google Killer?</a></em> I think that right now, Google (and Yahoo) might just be facing the potential risk of being bought out by MSM company. If Congress decides to mess with their behavioral ad targeting model, they can end up in dire enough financial straights that someone like Rupert Murdoch could easily swoop in and snatch them up.

Consider: http://gypsybandito.com/the-real-google-killer/

CT Moore’s last blog post..The Real Google Killer?

]]> By: Search Engine News » The New York Times Threatened by Google? http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-54009 Search Engine News » The New York Times Threatened by Google? Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:50:36 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-54009 [...] More from www.marketingpilgrim.com… [...] [...] More from http://www.marketingpilgrim.com…; [...]

]]> By: Tiffany http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-54004 Tiffany Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:18:01 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-54004 Even the offline business start fearing Google. LOL Even the offline business start fearing Google. LOL

]]> By: Otilia Otlacan http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-53981 Otilia Otlacan Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:56:51 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-53981 Funny how the NYT is, in fact, one of Google's most prominent content partners and is monetized through AdSense. Newspapers in particular are facing difficulties monetizing their sites and no viable business model emerged yet: direct ad sales are taking dips, and paid premium content is not feeling too good either. AdSense, therefore, is one of the very few convenient options they have, especially if Google wants their inventory badly enough to offer a contractual min CPM. <em>Otilia Otlacan's last blog post..<a href='http://www.adoperationsonline.com/2008/08/11/use-of-ad-networks-surges-six-fold-as-media-companies-step-up-monetization-of-unsold-online-advertising-inventory/' rel="nofollow">Use of ?Ad Networks? Surges Six-Fold as Media Companies Step Up Monetization of Unsold Online Advertising Inventory</a></em> Funny how the NYT is, in fact, one of Google’s most prominent content partners and is monetized through AdSense.

Newspapers in particular are facing difficulties monetizing their sites and no viable business model emerged yet: direct ad sales are taking dips, and paid premium content is not feeling too good either. AdSense, therefore, is one of the very few convenient options they have, especially if Google wants their inventory badly enough to offer a contractual min CPM.

Otilia Otlacan’s last blog post..Use of ?Ad Networks? Surges Six-Fold as Media Companies Step Up Monetization of Unsold Online Advertising Inventory

]]> By: Utah SEO Pro http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-53971 Utah SEO Pro Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:45:26 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-53971 Wikipedia has the most to fear. <em>Utah SEO Pro's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jordankasteler.com/utah-seo-pro-blog/mobile-local-mobile-2/' rel="nofollow">Mobile SEO - SMX Local Mobile 2008 Presentation</a></em> Wikipedia has the most to fear.

Utah SEO Pro’s last blog post..Mobile SEO – SMX Local Mobile 2008 Presentation

]]> By: Ciaran http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-53967 Ciaran Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:15:50 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-53967 I'm not sure I agree: I think it's actually a pretty valid question (is Google becoming a media company) although one I think most of us have already worked out the answer to (clue, it rhymes with bess). As for the revenue model, well, they probably would have had revenue models (some sites were making money before Google came along) they just might not be making as much. Or some of them might be making more, as people might not have got as used to being able to directly track ROI if AdWords hadn't shaken up the market. <em>Ciaran's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CiaranNorris/~3/313235693/' rel="nofollow">SnapNow: The Real Future Of Mobile Search?</a></em> I’m not sure I agree: I think it’s actually a pretty valid question (is Google becoming a media company) although one I think most of us have already worked out the answer to (clue, it rhymes with bess).

As for the revenue model, well, they probably would have had revenue models (some sites were making money before Google came along) they just might not be making as much. Or some of them might be making more, as people might not have got as used to being able to directly track ROI if AdWords hadn’t shaken up the market.

Ciaran’s last blog post..SnapNow: The Real Future Of Mobile Search?

]]> By: Mastering the Case Interview: The Complete Guide to Management, Marketing, and Strategic Consulting Case Interviews, 4th Edition | Internet Marketing Marketing Strategies Marketing Resources | Marketing Idea http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-53966 Mastering the Case Interview: The Complete Guide to Management, Marketing, and Strategic Consulting Case Interviews, 4th Edition | Internet Marketing Marketing Strategies Marketing Resources | Marketing Idea Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:00:54 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-53966 [...] The New York Times asks almost nonchalantly Is Google a Media Company? I d ask the NYT: Why? Are you scared of the competition? [Google’s] Knol has been called a potential rival to Wikipedia and other sites whose content spans a broad … more info… [...] [...] The New York Times asks almost nonchalantly Is Google a Media Company? I d ask the NYT: Why? Are you scared of the competition? [Google’s] Knol has been called a potential rival to Wikipedia and other sites whose content spans a broad … more info… [...]

]]> By: Nicole Price http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-53960 Nicole Price Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:01:04 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-53960 Let us look at it from the user's point of view, which I am sure will eventually win. More the competition, the better for content writers, searchers and advertisers. NYT should gear up to compete rather than cry foul! <em>Nicole Price's last blog post..<a href='http://www.greatpriceshere.com/2008/08/11/save-money-effectively/' rel="nofollow">How To Save Effectively</a></em> Let us look at it from the user’s point of view, which I am sure will eventually win. More the competition, the better for content writers, searchers and advertisers. NYT should gear up to compete rather than cry foul!

Nicole Price’s last blog post..How To Save Effectively

]]> By: WD http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html/comment-page-1#comment-53957 WD Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:40:11 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/08/the-new-york-times-threatened-by-google.html#comment-53957 "They wouldn’t even have a model for monetizing their content, if it were not for Google!" Which is why the Google/Yahoo partnership needs to be closely examined. NY Times as a site itself should not be threatened. About.com actually has useful content, and being editorially controlled will be a plus in the long run. Knol is already becoming a spammer haven, so what credibility it has will be short-lived if Google does not tighten control. Of course, does Google really care if they're seeing the ad revenue. They have not cleaned up Blogger yet. “They wouldn’t even have a model for monetizing their content, if it were not for Google!”

Which is why the Google/Yahoo partnership needs to be closely examined.

NY Times as a site itself should not be threatened. About.com actually has useful content, and being editorially controlled will be a plus in the long run. Knol is already becoming a spammer haven, so what credibility it has will be short-lived if Google does not tighten control. Of course, does Google really care if they’re seeing the ad revenue. They have not cleaned up Blogger yet.

]]>