Comments on: 6 Things We Heard Again from the Search Engineers at SMX East http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html Internet Marketing News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Links [2008/10/23] | Pc-aras http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-58357 Links [2008/10/23] | Pc-aras Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:14:55 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-58357 [...] 6 Things We Heard Again from the Search Engineers at SMX East [...] [...] 6 Things We Heard Again from the Search Engineers at SMX East [...]

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]]> By: Saz http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-58263 Saz Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:46:39 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-58263 This discussion in fact endorses some of the old practices still being effective for search <em>Saz's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/best_deals/~3/427834818/' rel="nofollow">World’s Lightest Blue-ray Laptop - Sony Launches Sony Vaio TT Series</a></em> This discussion in fact endorses some of the old practices still being effective for search

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]]> By: Downloadic http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-58126 Downloadic Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:59:43 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-58126 I’m a big believer in the concept of links being important, too. I’m a big believer in the concept of links being important, too.

]]> By: SearchCap: The Day In Search, October 15, 2008 | SEO Tips Mashup http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57990 SearchCap: The Day In Search, October 15, 2008 | SEO Tips Mashup Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:29:24 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57990 [...] 6 Things We Heard Again from the Search Engineers at SMX East, Marketing Pilgrim [...] [...] 6 Things We Heard Again from the Search Engineers at SMX East, Marketing Pilgrim [...]

]]> By: Utah SEO Pro http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57950 Utah SEO Pro Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:33:13 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57950 Surprised to hear that the engines didn't disapprove of aff links. <em>Utah SEO Pro's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jordankasteler.com/utah-seo-pro-blog/link-metrics/' rel="nofollow">Link Metrics for SEO</a></em> Surprised to hear that the engines didn’t disapprove of aff links.

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]]> By: Ted Murphy http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57931 Ted Murphy Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:05:37 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57931 "If you have new pages, ensure relevant sites link to them" -- that is the basic task, I guess. Is it possible to buy links that Google feels are legitimate? How would you recommend doing that? I find your articles fascinating, btw. I noticed in an earlier article that 7 out of 10 of Tribune's top search-generated visits were branded queries. Its interesting reading about the activities of an SEO wearing the white hat, trying to protect their company's copyrights here on the 'net. “If you have new pages, ensure relevant sites link to them” — that is the basic task, I guess. Is it possible to buy links that Google feels are legitimate? How would you recommend doing that?

I find your articles fascinating, btw. I noticed in an earlier article that 7 out of 10 of Tribune’s top search-generated visits were branded queries. Its interesting reading about the activities of an SEO wearing the white hat, trying to protect their company’s copyrights here on the ‘net.

]]> By: Nicole Price http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57923 Nicole Price Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:05:55 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57923 Wow! What a discussion!! This is very entertaining. <em>Nicole Price's last blog post..<a href='http://www.greatpriceshere.com/2008/10/13/mobile-accessories/' rel="nofollow">Mobile Accessories</a></em> Wow! What a discussion!! This is very entertaining.

Nicole Price’s last blog post..Mobile Accessories

]]> By: Sean Maguire http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57921 Sean Maguire Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:42:42 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57921 @Rand, I think you took misunderstood my comment. I enjoyed your post and I wasn't suggesting that you were being dishonest at all. Rather, I was implying that in general, when a writer is in a position of significant bias, the potential exists for them to respond more favorably than they might otherwise; and that is something that a reader should take into consideration. I think that's a fair statement. That said, I've always felt that you've been pretty well balanced when providing commentary on events such as this. @Andy - Did you say something nice about me? Did I miss it? ;) @Rand,

I think you took misunderstood my comment. I enjoyed your post and I wasn’t suggesting that you were being dishonest at all.

Rather, I was implying that in general, when a writer is in a position of significant bias, the potential exists for them to respond more favorably than they might otherwise; and that is something that a reader should take into consideration. I think that’s a fair statement.

That said, I’ve always felt that you’ve been pretty well balanced when providing commentary on events such as this.

@Andy – Did you say something nice about me? Did I miss it? ;)

]]> By: Goran Web Design http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57919 Goran Web Design Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:40:40 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57919 The one point I think most people overlook is "<b>using session IDs</b>". Great post ;-) The one point I think most people overlook is “using session IDs“.

Great post ;-)

]]> By: Vanessa Fox http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57909 Vanessa Fox Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:03:18 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57909 Indeed, I did say it helps with discoverability when I was a Googler. For instance, here: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/03/blogher-2007-building-your-audience.html "The first step in the indexing process is discovery. A search engine has to know the pages exist. Search engines generally learn about pages from following links, and this process works great. If you have new pages, ensure relevant sites link to them, and provide links to them from within your site... You can also let search engines know about the pages of your site by submitting a Sitemap file." And Sitemaps as a signal for canonical URLs was discussed on the webmaster central blog here: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/09/google-duplicate-content-caused-by-url.html "Submitting a Sitemap with the canonical (i.e. representative) version of each URL. While we can't guarantee that our algorithms will display the Sitemap's URL in search results, it's helpful to indicate the canonical preference." <em>Vanessa Fox's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.vanessafoxnude.com/~r/VanessaFoxNude/~3/419857533/' rel="nofollow">Increasing Search Indexing Coverage With an XML Sitemap</a></em> Indeed, I did say it helps with discoverability when I was a Googler. For instance, here:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/03/blogher-2007-buildi ng-your-audience.html

“The first step in the indexing process is discovery. A search engine has to know the pages exist. Search engines generally learn about pages from following links, and this process works great. If you have new pages, ensure relevant sites link to them, and provide links to them from within your site… You can also let search engines know about the pages of your site by submitting a Sitemap file.”

And Sitemaps as a signal for canonical URLs was discussed on the webmaster central blog here:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/09/google-duplicate-co ntent-caused-by-url.html

“Submitting a Sitemap with the canonical (i.e. representative) version of each URL. While we can’t guarantee that our algorithms will display the Sitemap’s URL in search results, it’s helpful to indicate the canonical preference.”

Vanessa Fox’s last blog post..Increasing Search Indexing Coverage With an XML Sitemap

]]> By: Jaan Kanellis http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57908 Jaan Kanellis Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:32:14 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57908 @Brent nice post. I see that the Chi Tribune home page uses a hybrid of "SEO Level 2" and "SEO Level 3" from your images. Care to define these 5 levels and when to use them? <em>Jaan Kanellis's last blog post..<a href='http://www.jaankanellis.com/dont-update-adwords-editor-when-it-asks-you-to/' rel="nofollow">Don’t Update AdWords Editor When It Asks You To!</a></em> @Brent nice post. I see that the Chi Tribune home page uses a hybrid of “SEO Level 2″ and “SEO Level 3″ from your images. Care to define these 5 levels and when to use them?

Jaan Kanellis’s last blog post..Don’t Update AdWords Editor When It Asks You To!

]]> By: Andy Beal http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57896 Andy Beal Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:48:01 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57896 @Sean - does that mean that if I say nice things about you, they should be disregarded? ;-) @Rand - knowing you as well as I do, I really don't see you as being biased about this kind of stuff. Besides, you've got about 30,000 mozzers that would keep you honest. ;-) @Sean – does that mean that if I say nice things about you, they should be disregarded? ;-)

@Rand – knowing you as well as I do, I really don’t see you as being biased about this kind of stuff. Besides, you’ve got about 30,000 mozzers that would keep you honest. ;-)

]]> By: randfish http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57891 randfish Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:23:38 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57891 Ouch Sean. You really think that I would write nice things about a session dishonestly due to the corrupting influence of our sponsorship of the event or my friendship with Danny? That hurts. After all the years I've been doing this, and all the hundreds of times I've praised and criticized (there's plenty of both), I'm really surprised to see that sentiment. Wow. Ouch Sean. You really think that I would write nice things about a session dishonestly due to the corrupting influence of our sponsorship of the event or my friendship with Danny? That hurts. After all the years I’ve been doing this, and all the hundreds of times I’ve praised and criticized (there’s plenty of both), I’m really surprised to see that sentiment. Wow.

]]> By: Sean Maguire http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57888 Sean Maguire Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:59:04 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57888 Nice post Brent. I thought Rand's was good too. Having said that, I think it's fair to say that any time someone that is a sponsor of an event and very good friend of the host, you need to take their words with a grain of salt. Nice post Brent. I thought Rand’s was good too. Having said that, I think it’s fair to say that any time someone that is a sponsor of an event and very good friend of the host, you need to take their words with a grain of salt.

]]> By: Christopher Ross http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57884 Christopher Ross Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:39:45 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57884 Great to hear! I'm a big believer in the concept of links being important so it's great to read this. <em>Christopher Ross's last blog post..<a href='http://www.thisismyurl.com/marketing/increase-your-web-traffic-for-free/' rel="nofollow">Increase Your Web Traffic for Free</a></em> Great to hear! I’m a big believer in the concept of links being important so it’s great to read this.

Christopher Ross’s last blog post..Increase Your Web Traffic for Free

]]> By: Brent D. Payne http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57882 Brent D. Payne Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:20:58 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57882 @randfish - Your point about targetting to a blog audience is a fair point. I respect that and your opinion overall. I more clearly understand why you felt it was a one of the best sessions you have attended. It was more because they were forthright and less about what they stated. Though I did find them still rather dodgey than perhaps you did, it makes more sense now that I see it in that context. @randfish – Your point about targetting to a blog audience is a fair point. I respect that and your opinion overall. I more clearly understand why you felt it was a one of the best sessions you have attended. It was more because they were forthright and less about what they stated. Though I did find them still rather dodgey than perhaps you did, it makes more sense now that I see it in that context.

]]> By: randfish http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/10/6-things-we-heard-again-from-the-search-engineers-at-smx-east.html/comment-page-1#comment-57877 randfish Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:10:45 +0000 http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/?p=6093#comment-57877 Brent - maybe you misunderstood my post. To me, none of these (other than maybe the affiliate links) were "earth-shattering" either. I don't think we disagree. I just loved this session because the engineers were so forthright, honest and used very few of the overly political answers we usually see from them at events like this. That's why I loved it so much - the post content itself was just coverage of takeaways, and targeted to a blog audience that, unlike you and I, probably doesn't follow all of this extremely closely, and so much of it might be news to them. Brent – maybe you misunderstood my post. To me, none of these (other than maybe the affiliate links) were “earth-shattering” either. I don’t think we disagree. I just loved this session because the engineers were so forthright, honest and used very few of the overly political answers we usually see from them at events like this. That’s why I loved it so much – the post content itself was just coverage of takeaways, and targeted to a blog audience that, unlike you and I, probably doesn’t follow all of this extremely closely, and so much of it might be news to them.

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