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	<title>Comments on: Google Announces Update to Flash Indexing</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan Paul Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76580</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Paul Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it would help if I posted the link to the actual article I was mentioning, sorry about that. :) 
http://labs.blitzagency.com/?p=51

&lt;em&gt;Ryan Paul Thompson&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://ryanpaulthompson.com/?p=545&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter in Plain English&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it would help if I posted the link to the actual article I was mentioning, sorry about that. <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
http://labs.blitzagency.com/?p=51</p>
<p><em>Ryan Paul Thompson&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://ryanpaulthompson.com/?p=545' rel="nofollow">Twitter in Plain English</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76579</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify for those who may not know, you CAN deep link in flash, and create links that work and embrace a browsers &quot;back&quot; and &quot;forward&quot; functionality, but it then becomes a question of your flash team&#039;s experience level and what time/budgetary contraints are on a project. You can even enable bookmarking.

These have been possible for quite some time (this article cites doing it in 2007), but haven&#039;t not been integrated as a standard to the flash experience unfortunately.

Anyways, it&#039;s very cool to see progress on the indexing front with flash, it makes me wonder how this will carry over into Adobe&#039;s and Google&#039;s future plans with Air apps and Google&#039;s ability to index that content, and relay that information back to us.

&lt;em&gt;Ryan Thompson&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://ryanpaulthompson.com/?p=545&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter in Plain English&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify for those who may not know, you CAN deep link in flash, and create links that work and embrace a browsers &#8220;back&#8221; and &#8220;forward&#8221; functionality, but it then becomes a question of your flash team&#8217;s experience level and what time/budgetary contraints are on a project. You can even enable bookmarking.</p>
<p>These have been possible for quite some time (this article cites doing it in 2007), but haven&#8217;t not been integrated as a standard to the flash experience unfortunately.</p>
<p>Anyways, it&#8217;s very cool to see progress on the indexing front with flash, it makes me wonder how this will carry over into Adobe&#8217;s and Google&#8217;s future plans with Air apps and Google&#8217;s ability to index that content, and relay that information back to us.</p>
<p><em>Ryan Thompson&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://ryanpaulthompson.com/?p=545' rel="nofollow">Twitter in Plain English</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Joel Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76351</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please direct me to a tutorial on how to do this?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please direct me to a tutorial on how to do this?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76300</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess this means they will also index AJAX content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess this means they will also index AJAX content.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76197</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem with an all flash site never had much to do with indexing the content, but rather the URLs. Without unique and separate URLs for each &quot;page&quot; of content then deep linking, bookmarking and even the rudimentary browser functionality like the &quot;back&quot; button are broken. This is just unacceptable.

The work around has always been to relegate Flash for use just as you would a rollover image, embedded and separate from your actual content. Doing anything else is just lazy designers not wanting to design in more than one app and detrimental to your overall site&#039;s success.  If you ask me, announcements like this only give the lazy more ammunition for their misguided quest to shove Flash down everyone&#039;s throat. It&#039;s been over a decade that designers have been on this quest to make all Flash sites a standard, and it&#039;s been that long that it hasn&#039;t taken. Give it up!

&lt;em&gt;Terry Howard&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.terryhoward.net/2009/04/social-media-marketing.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Social Media Marketing: Network Responsibly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem with an all flash site never had much to do with indexing the content, but rather the URLs. Without unique and separate URLs for each &#8220;page&#8221; of content then deep linking, bookmarking and even the rudimentary browser functionality like the &#8220;back&#8221; button are broken. This is just unacceptable.</p>
<p>The work around has always been to relegate Flash for use just as you would a rollover image, embedded and separate from your actual content. Doing anything else is just lazy designers not wanting to design in more than one app and detrimental to your overall site&#8217;s success.  If you ask me, announcements like this only give the lazy more ammunition for their misguided quest to shove Flash down everyone&#8217;s throat. It&#8217;s been over a decade that designers have been on this quest to make all Flash sites a standard, and it&#8217;s been that long that it hasn&#8217;t taken. Give it up!</p>
<p><em>Terry Howard&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.terryhoward.net/2009/04/social-media-marketing.html' rel="nofollow">Social Media Marketing: Network Responsibly</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stamoulis</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76193</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stamoulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still would not trust an entire flash site. Flash sites just feel very outdated when i see them. Elements of flash are fine in my opinion but to build a whole site in it I just don&#039;t know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still would not trust an entire flash site. Flash sites just feel very outdated when i see them. Elements of flash are fine in my opinion but to build a whole site in it I just don&#8217;t know about.</p>
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		<title>By: Techway</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76170</link>
		<dc:creator>Techway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its about time they did this. I personally though will not be starting to use flash because of this announcement. Give it another couple of years, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its about time they did this. I personally though will not be starting to use flash because of this announcement. Give it another couple of years, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmila Charolina</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76169</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmila Charolina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi friend.. Good job... Thanks for your sharing. Your presentation very useful for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi friend.. Good job&#8230; Thanks for your sharing. Your presentation very useful for me.</p>
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		<title>By: edos</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76126</link>
		<dc:creator>edos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly support bonnie in the aspect of hoping to rank higher with flash content in web pages, i think good content (i.e text and html content) will always be the best.

&lt;em&gt;edos&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://bestgptr.blogspot.com/2009/06/it-is-easy-to-make-money-completing.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It Is Easy to Make Money Completing Surveys&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly support bonnie in the aspect of hoping to rank higher with flash content in web pages, i think good content (i.e text and html content) will always be the best.</p>
<p><em>edos&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://bestgptr.blogspot.com/2009/06/it-is-easy-to-make-money-completing.html' rel="nofollow">It Is Easy to Make Money Completing Surveys</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: jlbraaten</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76115</link>
		<dc:creator>jlbraaten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some great new information.  We&#039;re about to do some Flash advertising on our homepage and this will come in as a handy resource.  Looks like we&#039;ll be nofollowing the links!

PS I&#039;m loving Radically Transparent.  I have a bunch of VPs awaiting my social media report coming out at the end of the month, my first attempt at listening to our brand.

&lt;em&gt;jlbraaten&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.bigpictureweb.com/3-steps-to-find-your-social-media-tools-and-purpose&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3 Steps to Find Your Social Media Tools and Purpose&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some great new information.  We&#8217;re about to do some Flash advertising on our homepage and this will come in as a handy resource.  Looks like we&#8217;ll be nofollowing the links!</p>
<p>PS I&#8217;m loving Radically Transparent.  I have a bunch of VPs awaiting my social media report coming out at the end of the month, my first attempt at listening to our brand.</p>
<p><em>jlbraaten&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.bigpictureweb.com/3-steps-to-find-your-social-media-tools-and-purpose' rel="nofollow">3 Steps to Find Your Social Media Tools and Purpose</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Landau</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/06/google-announces-update-to-flash-indexing.html/comment-page-1#comment-76105</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Landau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this will change my mind about Flash. How can you hope to rank at all if the indexing is so iffy? I think the consumer, or purchasers of websites, need to be educated more about what they&#039;re buying when buying a website. I&#039;ve had clients come to me with all-Flash sites, and I think I&#039;ve upset a few when I explain that search engines cannot index them properly. They insist their original developer said it was the latest thing, and they usually paid way more than if their site had been done in HTML. Flash is cool to insert into a site (like a video or animation), but I will continue to avoid all-Flash sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this will change my mind about Flash. How can you hope to rank at all if the indexing is so iffy? I think the consumer, or purchasers of websites, need to be educated more about what they&#8217;re buying when buying a website. I&#8217;ve had clients come to me with all-Flash sites, and I think I&#8217;ve upset a few when I explain that search engines cannot index them properly. They insist their original developer said it was the latest thing, and they usually paid way more than if their site had been done in HTML. Flash is cool to insert into a site (like a video or animation), but I will continue to avoid all-Flash sites.</p>
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