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		<title>By: When to use paid and free analytics services &#124; Weight Watch</title>
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		<dc:creator>When to use paid and free analytics services &#124; Weight Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recently there have been several stories trying to understand when to use paid solutions over free solutions like Google Analytics. One post was talking about Google&#8217;s Achilles Heel referring to the fact that they don&#8217;t identify individual visitors. Another was a question asking &#8220;When is Google not enough?&#8221; From our most recent launch we saw two stories comparing us to Google: Google Eat your Heart Out and Webtrends steals Google&#8217;s lunch money and spits in its face. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recently there have been several stories trying to understand when to use paid solutions over free solutions like Google Analytics. One post was talking about Google&#8217;s Achilles Heel referring to the fact that they don&#8217;t identify individual visitors. Another was a question asking &#8220;When is Google not enough?&#8221; From our most recent launch we saw two stories comparing us to Google: Google Eat your Heart Out and Webtrends steals Google&#8217;s lunch money and spits in its face. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: steve branko</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve branko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had access to wedtrends 9 and the interface on the face of it looks pretty but they have lost huge swathes of granularity and analysis capabilities and they appear to be becoming a GA clone with a few bells and whistles that i have to say were not very easy to use. I also found the version with a lot of bugs and having worked with 20 providers over the years there are plenty of better heavyweight products for serious business users including site catalyst, coremetrics and Intellitracker R6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had access to wedtrends 9 and the interface on the face of it looks pretty but they have lost huge swathes of granularity and analysis capabilities and they appear to be becoming a GA clone with a few bells and whistles that i have to say were not very easy to use. I also found the version with a lot of bugs and having worked with 20 providers over the years there are plenty of better heavyweight products for serious business users including site catalyst, coremetrics and Intellitracker R6.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only imagine that this title was worded this way it was to generate traffic b/c the idea is laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only imagine that this title was worded this way it was to generate traffic b/c the idea is laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Interview: John Lovett from Forrester Research &#124; KlickIntelligence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interview: John Lovett from Forrester Research &#124; KlickIntelligence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is able to clarify the marketplace in a way few others can. Don&#8217;t believe me? Check out his response to possibly the worst article about web analytics, ever. Measured, polite, even complimentary [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Interview: John Lovett from Forrester Research &#124; Web Analytics Demystified</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interview: John Lovett from Forrester Research &#124; Web Analytics Demystified</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is able to clarify the marketplace in a way few others can. Don&#8217;t believe me? Check out his response to possibly the worst article about web analytics, ever. Measured, polite, even complimentary [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Interesting links I shared in Google Reader from August 5th through August 6th &#124; Asfaq.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interesting links I shared in Google Reader from August 5th through August 6th &#124; Asfaq.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Webtrends releases Webtrends Analytics 9, initial reviews are ecstatic &#124; Oregon Startup Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webtrends releases Webtrends Analytics 9, initial reviews are ecstatic &#124; Oregon Startup Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Webtrends releases Webtrends Analytics 9, initial reviews are ecstatic &#124; Silicon Florist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webtrends releases Webtrends Analytics 9, initial reviews are ecstatic &#124; Silicon Florist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WebTrends 9 Spits in Google Analytics’ Face; Steals Its Lunch Money Too! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cory Huff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with John - Google&#039;s (free) lunch money is relatively safe.  Webtrends is awesome though.  I live in Portland and they have done a tremendous job in community outreach and industry facilitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with John &#8211; Google&#8217;s (free) lunch money is relatively safe.  Webtrends is awesome though.  I live in Portland and they have done a tremendous job in community outreach and industry facilitation.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lovett</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lovett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed you got my attention! Kudos for sensationalism :)

I too rocked the boat last year when I wrote that IndexTools has 77% of the premium solution&#039;s functionality and that Google Analytics had 64%. http://www.analyticsevolution.com/2008/07/its-not-tools-its-craftsman.html. Those stats make free look rather compelling.

Cheers,
John
.-= John Lovett´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.analyticsevolution.com/2009/07/webtrends-to-acquire-widemile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Webtrends Acquires Widemile&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed you got my attention! Kudos for sensationalism <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I too rocked the boat last year when I wrote that IndexTools has 77% of the premium solution&#8217;s functionality and that Google Analytics had 64%. http://www.analyticsevolution.com/2008/07/its-not-tools-its-craftsman. html. Those stats make free look rather compelling.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
John<br />
.-= John Lovett´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.analyticsevolution.com/2009/07/webtrends-to-acquire-widemile.html" rel="nofollow">Webtrends Acquires Widemile</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John - those that read MP, know how much I love GA. In fact, I annoyed a lot of analytics firms when I once said that GA was enough for 90% of all companies. Still, benign headlines don&#039;t make for interesting reading--or get people to comment. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John &#8211; those that read MP, know how much I love GA. In fact, I annoyed a lot of analytics firms when I once said that GA was enough for 90% of all companies. Still, benign headlines don&#8217;t make for interesting reading&#8211;or get people to comment. <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Lovett</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lovett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve seen the new interface and indeed it does offer some innovative functionality. @douglaskarr does it justice. But what’s with the smack down on Google Analytics? 

Even Webtrends concedes in its press release that Google Analytics is good for them and the Web analytics industry as a whole. I’m not defending GA or their technology because frankly they don’t need me to. Each of these technologies is right for some companies…the trick is understanding what your organization needs. 

I’d add that Google’s lunch money is relatively safe...and it’s a free lunch at that.

My $.02.

John Lovett,
Forrester Research
.-= John Lovett´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.analyticsevolution.com/2009/07/webtrends-to-acquire-widemile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Webtrends Acquires Widemile&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve seen the new interface and indeed it does offer some innovative functionality. @douglaskarr does it justice. But what’s with the smack down on Google Analytics? </p>
<p>Even Webtrends concedes in its press release that Google Analytics is good for them and the Web analytics industry as a whole. I’m not defending GA or their technology because frankly they don’t need me to. Each of these technologies is right for some companies…the trick is understanding what your organization needs. </p>
<p>I’d add that Google’s lunch money is relatively safe&#8230;and it’s a free lunch at that.</p>
<p>My $.02.</p>
<p>John Lovett,<br />
Forrester Research<br />
.-= John Lovett´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.analyticsevolution.com/2009/07/webtrends-to-acquire-widemile.html" rel="nofollow">Webtrends Acquires Widemile</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Eubanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Eubanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the &quot;plain english&quot; feature!  That will help tremendously when sending reports to people who don&#039;t necessarily like &quot;stats&quot;. The social trending graph is cool too....we often look at spikes and end up wondering if it was an email campaign, twitter post, etc. 

Overall I love what I see so far...very slick.
.-= Shane Eubanks´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShaneEubanks/~3/mFOcMQZMWA0/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Build a Better Blog in 31 Days&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the &#8220;plain english&#8221; feature!  That will help tremendously when sending reports to people who don&#8217;t necessarily like &#8220;stats&#8221;. The social trending graph is cool too&#8230;.we often look at spikes and end up wondering if it was an email campaign, twitter post, etc. </p>
<p>Overall I love what I see so far&#8230;very slick.<br />
.-= Shane Eubanks´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShaneEubanks/~3/mFOcMQZMWA0/" rel="nofollow">Build a Better Blog in 31 Days</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Chappell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Chappell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm $30,000 a year or free ;-)  I will take free.

That RSS overlay does look tight though.</description>
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<p>That RSS overlay does look tight though.</p>
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