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	<title>Comments on: Google and China: Maybe They Can&#8217;t Get Along</title>
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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s Doublespeak on China &#124; Manufacturer China</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s Doublespeak on China &#124; Manufacturer China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google announced that it would no longer play nicely with China, some suggested that this was a just a ploy to pull [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s Doublespeak on China &#124; Reaction Radio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s Doublespeak on China &#124; Reaction Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google announced that it would no longer play nicely with China, some suggested that this was a just a ploy to pull [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Petersen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chinese Govt Denies Involvement in Hacking; Did US Govt Help Instead?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Petersen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chinese Govt Denies Involvement in Hacking; Did US Govt Help Instead?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has officially, adamantly denied that the government played any role in the recent hack attack against Google and dozens of other firms (with the objective of account info for human rights [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nxtgates</title>
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		<dc:creator>nxtgates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google isn&#039;t going to pack up it&#039;s operations in china just because of censorship issues, which are there in many other countries like India, or hacking issues, which are there in all the countries.

This is just a threat to render a blow at China&#039;s censorship model, which I don&#039;t think is working.

There are enough smart people working at Google who realize that it isn&#039;t practical to quit the biggest internet market.

Checkout this article http://techguylabs.org/2010/01/24/google-china-fiasco-the-complete-picture/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google isn&#8217;t going to pack up it&#8217;s operations in china just because of censorship issues, which are there in many other countries like India, or hacking issues, which are there in all the countries.</p>
<p>This is just a threat to render a blow at China&#8217;s censorship model, which I don&#8217;t think is working.</p>
<p>There are enough smart people working at Google who realize that it isn&#8217;t practical to quit the biggest internet market.</p>
<p>Checkout this article http://techguylabs.org/2010/01/24/google-china-fiasco-the-complete-pic ture/.</p>
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		<title>By: China Responds to Google Situation @ WebNG Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>China Responds to Google Situation @ WebNG Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: China Responds to Google Situation &#171; Issywebsitedesign&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>China Responds to Google Situation &#171; Issywebsitedesign&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Some Interesting Points About the Google China Situation &#124; Anish E J&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Interesting Points About the Google China Situation &#124; Anish E J&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Some Interesting Points About the Google China Situation &#124; Srinivas Katam - Internet Marketing Specialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Interesting Points About the Google China Situation &#124; Srinivas Katam - Internet Marketing Specialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Some Interesting Points About the Google China Situation @ WebNG Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2010/01/google-and-china-maybe-they-cant-get-along.html/comment-page-1#comment-107108</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Interesting Points About the Google China Situation @ WebNG Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: searchengineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>searchengineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is playing a very dangerous game. The Chinese will react &quot;Who the hell do you think you are, to tell us what to do&quot;.  I believe China has shut out other companies for lesser reasons.  If they get really get vindictive, China can also ban companies who do business with Google as well 
hmmmmm....everyone except Microsoft?  :-).  

I also think the unbelievable amount of requests and logistics involved working with Chinese censors to block..this...block that....etc.  Would make it humanly impossible to run a search company, in these conditions.

What is even more creepy about mainland Chinese internet surfers is every so often a message (I believe its a cartoon character) flashes across the screen, to remind they are being watched.  And yes they are being watched.  This is based on the concept of the Panopticon (Never actually built) prison design:.

The prison contains one way glass where the prisoner is never actually sure if his movements are being monitored by the guard. The prisoner assumes the guard is alway there, the perfect prison, monitoring system.

Personally this raises Google&#039;s &quot;do no evil&quot; up a notch in my books. I don&#039;t think China has any choice but to boot Google out, to save face.

&quot;A principle is not a principle, unless it costs you money&quot;.  
Searchengineman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is playing a very dangerous game. The Chinese will react &#8220;Who the hell do you think you are, to tell us what to do&#8221;.  I believe China has shut out other companies for lesser reasons.  If they get really get vindictive, China can also ban companies who do business with Google as well<br />
hmmmmm&#8230;.everyone except Microsoft?  <img src='http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  </p>
<p>I also think the unbelievable amount of requests and logistics involved working with Chinese censors to block..this&#8230;block that&#8230;.etc.  Would make it humanly impossible to run a search company, in these conditions.</p>
<p>What is even more creepy about mainland Chinese internet surfers is every so often a message (I believe its a cartoon character) flashes across the screen, to remind they are being watched.  And yes they are being watched.  This is based on the concept of the Panopticon (Never actually built) prison design:.</p>
<p>The prison contains one way glass where the prisoner is never actually sure if his movements are being monitored by the guard. The prisoner assumes the guard is alway there, the perfect prison, monitoring system.</p>
<p>Personally this raises Google&#8217;s &#8220;do no evil&#8221; up a notch in my books. I don&#8217;t think China has any choice but to boot Google out, to save face.</p>
<p>&#8220;A principle is not a principle, unless it costs you money&#8221;.<br />
Searchengineman</p>
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